Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[Heather07438]

I didn't think twice about first several rides that WDW installed plexiglass. Was a fine compromise.
Now it seems like their intention is to put plexiglass everywhere so they can fill up every seat again.

Something about WDW deciding to up the plexiglass game while also changing protocol at many rides to use every row again (RnR, FoP, SDD, etc) makes it feel disingenuous.

This is an incomplete approximation from our personal trip notes-
July - LwtL
July - Jungle Cruise
July - Kilimanjaro Safari

October - RotR

Late Nov - MMRR
Dec 1 - Friend Ship Boats
December - Frozen
December - MFSR
Late Dec - IASW

 

[rteetz]

It just makes zero sense on why would they add barriers to Frozen, but not FoP?

Even if they are going to add them at some point, what about these days where there are no barriers and people are sitting right next to each other? Well, we will add them later, so it's a wash? Forget about the few days when we had nothing in place!

There is nobody sitting directly in front of you or behind you on FoP.

 

[rteetz]

yeah, to be honest this is the change that I am most surprised by. Even when they started loading omnimover every vehicle to me that wasn't a huge deal as there is a decent gap and some other protection around you

But this, there is nothing between you and the person next to you - like I said, I could reach out and tough the other person no problem

and this also seems like another case of how much capacity is really being added by this? The rooms are already split into groups of 8 vehicles, so assuming an average group is 3-4 people you likely only had one empty one per room, maybe 2 or 3 occasionally if individual riders, so what are they gaining? 10-15% capacity? Is that worth the risk (real or of bad PR)?

FoP isn’t all that high capacity to begin with.

 

[Farro]

There is nobody sitting directly in front of you or behind you on FoP.

But now they are right next to you with no barrier. What's the difference?

 

[rteetz]

But now they are right next to you with no barrier. What's the difference?

The barriers in front or behind again are essentially sneeze guards. No like we have said before they aren’t going to stop everything. On FoP that isn’t needed because you are side by side. Sure someone could turn sideways to sneeze or cough but that’s less likely. I don’t think anyone is saying the mitigation Disney is taking will stop all spread. Disney is just trying to be efficient and stay open.

 

[Farro]

The barriers in front or behind again are essentially sneeze guards. No like we have said before they aren’t going to stop everything. On FoP that isn’t needed because you are side by side. Sure someone could turn sideways to sneeze or cough but that’s less likely. I don’t think anyone is saying the mitigation Disney is taking will stop all spread. Disney is just trying to be efficient and stay open.

If someone sneezes, it's going to go everywhere, not just ahead or behind. It's in the air at that point. And especially because you are stationary, you're just kind of sitting in it while it swirls all around...

I understand what you are saying about some extra protection, but in my opinion, I think it should be all or nothing. The arbitrary ways they are going about adding "protection" is slightly infuriating.

If they really want to say they follow the guidelines of safety, they should just keep the six feet between people and let people cry about long waits.

 

[rteetz]

If someone sneezes, it's going to go everywhere, not just ahead or behind. It's in the air at that point. And especially because you are stationary, you're just kind of sitting in it while it swirls all around...

I understand what you are saying about some extra protection, but in my opinion, I think it should be all or nothing. The arbitrary ways they are going about adding "protection" is slightly infuriating.
They should just keep the six feet between people and let people cry about long waits.

Lol

Even before this they were doing 6 feet between people on FoP. They would just leave one seat open which is like 3 feet.

I am also not saying all of what Disney is working or will prevent spread. That said they are trying to do what they can. It seems barriers on FoP are not feasible. As many of us have noted the mask is the best option however humans are human and don’t always do everything they are supposed to.

 

[Farro]

Lol

Even before this they were doing 6 feet between people on FoP. They would just leave one seat open which is like 3 feet.

I am also not saying all of what Disney is working or will prevent spread. That said they are trying to do what they can. It seems barriers on FoP are not feasible. As many of us have noted the mask is the best option however humans are human and don’t always do everything they are supposed to.

And that's my whole point. I guess, why bother doing on any rides if they can't do it on all rides. Hey come to Disney, we're kind of safe?
And I am one who is fine with masks and no distancing on rides less than 15 minutes, so technically I'm not complaining about more people riding at one time.

I just am the type of person that gets frustrated when things are done just for the sake of being done with no real reasoning behind it. Maybe not frustrated, but I just want to know why!

And before anyone says it, none of this will keep us from in this spring. We will just request first row on every ride! Now I will spare you all from the rest of my thoughts on the matter.

 

[Heather07438]

Why take another bite out of guest experience if it's not changing much in the big picture tho. This newest wave of plexiglass added rides isn't even likely to reduce risks or wait times enough for our trip to make it worth reducing the experience. There's a hundred thousand others like us who will visit these next slower months.

Guests have been pretty tolerant with adjustments. Helps when decisions of safety/experience stay in balance. In the end we all want to make this work so they can stay open and CMs can keep creating the magic.

That's all I'll say for now because we're probably not in a place to fully judge it until we arrive next week.

 

[Mit88]

I just went to a Disney store and they’re no longer taking temperatures. I know the stores were abiding by park safety measures. Wonder if we start seeing the temp checks go away in the parks soon.

 

[skeeter31]

I just went to a Disney store and they’re no longer taking temperatures. I know the stores were abiding by park safety measures. Wonder if we start seeing the temp checks go away in the parks soon.

Doubt it. To me that just seems like the store got lazy and didn’t do it (or is operating on short staff). The parks are contracted out with AdventHealth to do the screenings, which the stores weren’t.

 

[Mit88]

Doubt it. To me that just seems like the store got lazy and didn’t do it (or is operating on short staff). The parks are contracted out with AdventHealth to do the screenings, which the stores weren’t.

They had about 8-10 employees working and someone checking you in at the door, just no temp check like they were doing. As far as I know they were very strict about operating by the same rules in the stores. Even though it’s a different branch of the company, it still wouldn’t look good to get lazy in one area

 

[rpb718]

This went over my head.

Are you making fun of Disney or us for having the conversation?

I'm trying to check myself from going down any more rabbit holes today.

 

[skeeter31]

They had about 8-10 employees working and someone checking you in at the door, just no temp check like they were doing. As far as I know they were very strict about operating by the same rules in the stores. Even though it’s a different branch of the company, it still wouldn’t look good to get lazy in one area

Oh interesting. I know the outlet closest to me normally only has 3 employees working at a time so that’s why I assumed they were just understaffed. Thermometer could have been broken too. I just can’t see them moving away from the temp check safety theater this early. While we all know it does absolutely nothing, I think they’ll stick with it for a long time.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Not sure if this is really new, but Blog Mickey reporting that they are seating every row on Everest too now ....

also noted in these pictures is that mask complaince on the ride is, um, not great

https://twitter.com/x/status/1343965361750872064

 

[Farro]

Well I read Gideon's has a virtual queue so at least we can "wait in line" for my cookie while eating lunch somewhere else!

People, let's report if the peanut butter one sells out early in the day please!

 

[Farro]

Not sure if this is really new, but Blog Mickey reporting that they are seating every row on Everest too now ....

also noted in these pictures is that mask complaince on the ride is, um, not great

https://twitter.com/x/status/1343965361750872064

Ah, the "high backs" protection.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Ah, the "high backs" protection.

yeah, again, it isn't any one thing it is now like a pattern that is showing that while they may have been making honest efforst at the begining now it seems like they are coming up with whatever they canto cram more people in

... well, anything other than reopen shows or anything like that

they are like two steps away from resorting to the Chewbaca defense

 

[Eeyore daily]

Not sure if this is really new, but Blog Mickey reporting that they are seating every row on Everest too now ....

also noted in these pictures is that mask complaince on the ride is, um, not great

https://twitter.com/x/status/1343965361750872064

That is absolutely atrocious. I guess the best way to avoid that is to ask for the front row I suppose.

 

[jerry557]

So what exactly are they supposed to do? Stop the coaster as its going down a drop 50 mph and tell someone to put their mask back on before it can continue?

Just think of how many masks are "slipping off" on Rockin Rollercoaster.