Another fight and no one to stop it.

The way they are dressed makes it easier to follow on the videos. It's like they are on teams.
Or like they could be a gang on The Warriors.
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Hardly.
As a middle- & high school teacher for decades, I can confirm that MOST kids who come from tough families & tough situations welcome learning about how others live.
It's our job as a society to help them. Education is the key.
I find the apple usually doesn’t fall far from the tree. If would you said was true we wouldn’t have all these problems.
 
Hardly.
As a middle- & high school teacher for decades, I can confirm that MOST kids who come from tough families & tough situations welcome learning about how others live.
It's our job as a society to help them. Education is the key.
Glad to hear this. There was a video circulating last week that showed a young boy, not much older than a toddler, still in a diaper even, smacking and swearing at a police officer with a level of aggression that was pretty disturbing. He still has a while to get to middle and high school. Do you think some of that learned hatred can be undone at that point?
 
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Hardly.
As a middle- & high school teacher for decades, I can confirm that MOST kids who come from tough families & tough situations welcome learning about how others live.
It's our job as a society to help them. Education is the key.
I wish this was true! So many kids are "lost" by the time they reach kindergarten. YES...that young!111 It's tough to seen such young kids indoctrinated into a world of hate and violence. Some try but it's tough to break the cycle. BTW My experience comes from years of working with intercity youth. It absolutely breaks my heart to see kids so hardened and defiant at such a tender age.
 
Going forward, it would probably help a tiny bit, if Disney built bathrooms into the lines! Even if (shudder) it was a simple uni-sex stall.
I'm sorry...this is ridiculous IMO IT SHOULDNT BE NECESSARY This shouldn't have mattered one IOTA in this instance. Geesh! Someone forgot their cellphone...left it in their scooter. What should've been a minor event developed into this mess. "There's something wrong with the world today" I DO know what it is! It can be fixed but it doesn't serve particular agendas. It's been festering fo years....very sad!
 
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All these parks get fights, who is involved, where they likely occur (such as parking lot vs inside the park or inside a particular park), etc all can vary. Our local amusement park largely is going to be teens getting into fights as it's like dump your teen off and there you go place (I went as a teen with my friends so I was no different when I was younger in who went there a lot). There are multiple places that have curfews aimed at specific ages during the summer for a reason.

Yeah I get what you're saying. The fight at UO was a group of unsupervised teens as well (the article I read said it was around 20 teens brawling with each other). I saw the video of the fight at Knott's as well and also saw that now Knotts has imposed a rule where teens MUST be supervised by an adult at all times.

Two out of the three malls in my area have a rule where ALL teens must be supervised by an adult due to previous issues with fights and loitering. Any unsupervised teens will be kicked out of the mall. I've seen this happen in the past, mainly during the summer months when school is out. I've even been stopped and asked for my ID since I still look like a teenager LOL

After the video of the Fantasyland fight came out, my mom told me that she saw a fight when I was a kid (don't remember this at all). She witnessed two adult women physically fighting over a specific Dumbo color. The irony of that is that they have since added a whole other Dumbo attraction to increase capacity but this happened before that. My dad also remembers once time we were leaving AK and we were about to get on the parking lot trams when a man physically pushed my dad out of the way and hopped on the tram (my dad didn't start a fight. He wasn't going to bother starting a conflict in the AK parking lot of all places). These Disney fights have always been going on; everyone has a smartphone so now they're more exposed than ever before.

The local mall up the road from us has had to ban teens in large groups, and at times, bans teens without adult family members (not just other adults 18+ with them, as many have friends that have aged up), due to their behavior. Anytime we hear about a fight at a mall or movie theater in our area, we can pretty much guess it's that particular location.

OPM, for Jax peeps, and the traffic around it...ugh, makes me want to fight sometimes too, especially rush hour and the holidays!
 
Glad to hear this. There was a video circulating last week that showed a young boy, not much older than a toddler, still in a diaper even, smacking and swearing at a police officer with a level of aggression that was pretty disturbing. He still has a while to get to middle and high school. Do you think some of that learned hatred can be undone at that point?
I saw that video. Language that I wouldn't ever utter as an adult. The aggression. The look on his face. Truly one of the saddest things I've ever seen.
 
The local mall up the road from us has had to ban teens in large groups, and at times, bans teens without adult family members (not just other adults 18+ with them, as many have friends that have aged up), due to their behavior. Anytime we hear about a fight at a mall or movie theater in our area, we can pretty much guess it's that particular location.

OPM, for Jax peeps, and the traffic around it...ugh, makes me want to fight sometimes too, especially rush hour and the holidays!
Two malls near me did the same thing. They have a rule where all minors MUST be with an adult 21 and over at all times. One mall doesn't and that's where all of the teens go to hang out. I was actually at that mall yesterday and I swear I was in a high school. It was ALL teens walking around.

It's unfortunate for the well behaved kids at Knotts that use the park as a hangout due to the new policy (I used Six Flags Great Adventure as a hangout when I was a teen so I get it) but this is why we can't have nice things :(
 
I get that it can be annoying when someone is "cutting" the line to catch up with their family. I'm very non-confrontational, so I would never tell someone they couldn't or engage with them in a negative way. I also think more big picture about the situation. Is it worth it to stop the person that you think is doing something wrong, and risk getting a bad reaction from them? Potentially leading to arrest and a ban from Disney? Not worth it! I guess some peoples need to prove a point is more important than their freedom, or their desire to be able to visit Disney. I would be super annoyed it it was a large group but again, still not worth an arrest or ban.
 
I was at MK in 2012 and 2 teenage brothers started really battering each other. Their mother saw them from a distance and shouted "You stop that now" in her best teacher voice, so they did. It was only 9am so heaven only knows what they were like by 9pm but I bet momma bear had something to say about it.
 
I was at MK in 2012 and 2 teenage brothers started really battering each other. Their mother saw them from a distance and shouted "You stop that now" in her best teacher voice, so they did. It was only 9am so heaven only knows what they were like by 9pm but I bet momma bear had something to say about it.
Maybe the world needs more mama bears and papa bears that are willing to say no.
I've seen some nasty things at other parks but we've been pretty fortunate at Disney. We saw a mother at Water Country USA teach her kids how to cut in line. It was awful to watch.
 

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