Mackenzie Click-Mickelson
Chugging along the path of life
- Joined
- Oct 23, 2015
We know how you feel and I didn't say something was wrong with that. Just clarifying you did indeed say what others should do hence some poster's comments.For me.
We know how you feel and I didn't say something was wrong with that. Just clarifying you did indeed say what others should do hence some poster's comments.For me.
Exactly, especially since it’s not a common opinion.We know how you feel and I didn't say something was wrong with that. Just clarifying you did indeed say what others should do hence some poster's comments.
I think you had another post directed somewhat at my posts as controlling. I apologize if wrong. I treat my wife the way I feel a lady should be treated. It’s nothing we have ever talked about. She does thank me every time I open the door for her.I have a friend that is a in a long term controlling marriage. Things have gotten somewhat better in the last 5 years as she has gotten the nerve to speak up (got her own phone for example and her own bank card...).
To me what you speak of puts out a controlling vibe. I'M NOT SAYING YOU ARE CONTROLLING - before people jump on me. It's the perspective I get.
My friend does not have her license and when I see her the husband always drops her off and picks her up. This is the same type of vibe.
If I was dating someone and they wouldn't leave me alone at a table when out I would run the other way.
Opening doors is very lovely. My husband doesn't do that but it's not something I care about in the least.
I understand it's what you were taught but it's not a common thing. My husband is very lovely - makes and brings me coffee, puts gas in my car, etc. So it's all in the perspective I guess. Do what works best for you as a couple.
I righted my mis understood wrong.We know how you feel and I didn't say something was wrong with that. Just clarifying you did indeed say what others should do hence some poster's comments.
I think you had another post directed somewhat at my posts as controlling. I apologize if wrong. I treat my wife the way I feel a lady should be treated. It’s nothing we have ever talked about. She does thank me every time I open the door for her.
My wife travels internationally several times a month, often alone. She started and sold a very very successful company in a very demanding cut throat business for a very handsome sum of money. Easily can live off the Interest. She owns several properties. She’s very unassuming and certainly not controlled. I prefer to treat her like I believe a lady should be treated. It’s just the way I am. I think she appreciates it. But again it’s not talked about or even a big deal.
I righted my mis understood wrong.
You keep bringing this up and I know it slightly rubs me the wrong way. The way this reads to me is you consider it "good manners" to not leave your wife at the table alone and to open the car door. BUT, does that mean someone who DOESN'T do that doesn't have "good manners"?Displaying good manners?
It probably comes from the time when women were in need of male protection against other men. When women wore corsets and crinolines (so couldn't run away quickly) and only had a fan as a weapon to waive away unwanted attention.You keep bringing this up and I know it slightly rubs me the wrong way. The way this reads to me is you consider it "good manners" to not leave your wife at the table alone and to open the car door. BUT, does that mean someone who DOESN'T do that doesn't have "good manners"?
Again, I don't think that's what you're saying, but it is one way I read it.
And I understand the "manners" with holding the door open is because "the female shouldn't have to put out the effort". I don't get the "don't leave them at the table" though. Is it because they can't entertain themselves? Then you should never leave them alone. Is it because you (general) should be concerned about others approaching them? I get this is just the way you were brought up. And I don't find anything wrong with it (as long as your wife/GF doesn't have a problem with it). I just don't understand the reasoning behind it. That's a society question, not specifically a White Cat decision (if that makes sense).
Your paranoia is well served ............. happens way more often than anyone would ever want to believeI just wanted to say that I'm sorry that happened to you. I'm always paranoid (and sadly, have come to accept it) that some creepy person has put in a camera in there. You hear stories about that on the news from time to time, so I think it probably happens more than we even know. I don't know if he was after your purse or what, but I think that would've been terrifying and I'm glad you were able to scream to scare him off and get others' attention.
Not a White Cat thing. I thought it was general knowledge.You keep bringing this up and I know it slightly rubs me the wrong way. The way this reads to me is you consider it "good manners" to not leave your wife at the table alone and to open the car door. BUT, does that mean someone who DOESN'T do that doesn't have "good manners"?
Again, I don't think that's what you're saying, but it is one way I read it.
And I understand the "manners" with holding the door open is because "the female shouldn't have to put out the effort". I don't get the "don't leave them at the table" though. Is it because they can't entertain themselves? Then you should never leave them alone. Is it because you (general) should be concerned about others approaching them? I get this is just the way you were brought up. And I don't find anything wrong with it (as long as your wife/GF doesn't have a problem with it). I just don't understand the reasoning behind it. That's a society question, not specifically a White Cat decision (if that makes sense).
Sorry, I meant what the reason behind it is.Not a White Cat thing. I thought it was general knowledge.
The bolded is totally true. Personally, I don't follow it, I wasn't really taught it, and I don't think a female is deserving of "extra" respect (I mean, why not stand up/sit down whenever ANYONE leaves or approaches the table). That probably won't come out right, but hopefully someone will understand what I'm trying to say.I don’t really stop to think much about if the person has good manners or not. I guess if pressed I would say they haven’t been taught. Standing when the lady gets up or comes to sit down at the table? Rarely seen. For me manners in general doesn’t go out of style.
I think it came out perfectly right and my thinking as well. I really don't understand why anyone would think they have to stand up if I leave or approach a table just because I'm female. Then again, I also don't think I need doors opened for me, a seat given up for me, etc. just because I'm female.Sorry, I meant what the reason behind it is.
The bolded is totally true. Personally, I don't follow it, I wasn't really taught it, and I don't think a female is deserving of "extra" respect (I mean, why not stand up/sit down whenever ANYONE leaves or approaches the table). That probably won't come out right, but hopefully someone will understand what I'm trying to say.
Yeah, why is the standing thing even a thing?I think it came out perfectly right and my thinking as well. I really don't understand why anyone would think they have to stand up if I leave or approach a table just because I'm female. Then again, I also don't think I need doors opened for me, a seat given up for me, etc. just because I'm female.
Not general knowledge here. I'm in my 50s and never heard of such a thing.Not a White Cat thing. I thought it was general knowledge.
I don’t really stop to think much about if the person has good manners or not. I guess if pressed I would say they haven’t been taught. Standing when the lady gets up or comes to sit down at the table? Rarely seen. For me manners in general doesn’t go out of style.
disclaimer- i just bought a few loungefly bags for when i do want to use a purse because i like ones that can prompt people to start conversations (helps us shyer folks trying our best to socialize once a year or so)-these are the newest. do they meet the approval of the purse lovers on this thread?
I stopped carrying a purse during the pandemic. Just didn't want to worry about wiping the germs off when I got home. Once they decided surface transmission wasn't a thing, I never went back. Phone, wallet, keys. I count to 3 when I leave and that's it.
Back in 2017 there was a Haunted Mansion wallpaper one I was sooooo close to getting though.
Same here. I love to look at all of the cute backpacks but the idea of having to take that thing off each and every time I sat down on a ride is enough to make me flip out. I wish I had a dollar for every time my best friend and I see someone with a big ol backpack and look at each other and say, "what on earth would you possibly need that badly in a theme park to carry a bag that big?" You'd think some people were going on safari.I wish I could get into the backpack thing because I really love most of the Loungefly patterns. Every time I'm at my local Hallmark store I still glance at them just in case.
Back in 2017 there was a Haunted Mansion wallpaper one I was sooooo close to getting though.
I love getting into conversations with people about purses (or shoes lol). It's usually pretty easy too but I also live in the midwest where striking up conversations with people isn't all that abnormal either.