Southwest Airlines Increases Charge for Early-Boarding Fees

As other have mentioned SWA has a really odd no policy policy on seat saving. You’re just as likely to get scolded for moving somebody else’s things as you are to have the flight attendant side with you.



I honestly wouldn’t let it deter you. I’ve flown Southwest a fair amount and have had exactly one instance of seat issues. I find the boarding process on the legacy airlines way more tedious even with assigned seats and I usually fly 1st class because I’m fancy and awesome (lol not really, I’m willing to pay extra so my invaded space bubble anxiety is a little lower). Plus the flexibility of changing your tickets or cancelling on Southwest cannot be beat.

The bolded is why I absolutely LOVE flying Southwest, and have accumulated a ton of points in addition to a companion pass. We have flown them for years and I love the point system. I have booked, cancelled, rebooked so many flights with them. I think if they ever changed that part of their airline then i would consider flying others. We did recently fly Jetblue because they depart out of an airport slightly closer to us than Southwest and Jetblue was fine but nothing over the top wonderful. The TVs in the seatbacks were nice but only worked for one of our flights.

We never use EBCI anyway, as I usually can get a good boarding spot by checking in 24 hours before on the dot.
 
The bolded is why I absolutely LOVE flying Southwest, and have accumulated a ton of points in addition to a companion pass. We have flown them for years and I love the point system. I have booked, cancelled, rebooked so many flights with them. I think if they ever changed that part of their airline then i would consider flying others.

Most leisure passengers these days make purchases based on price, and Southwest isn't necessarily the cheapest any more. Personally when I fly to Seattle to visit relatives, I prefer Southwest because they have two included bags and we're not necessarily going crazy over being together with the open seating policy. They also have more flights out of Oakland which is more convenient for me and where there's less issues with weather delays than SFO. However, I'm consistently getting cheaper prices from Delta out of SFO on one of their regional partners like Skywest.

Amtrak used to be an alternative that many people chose because of the flexibility. They had a policy where a no-show could get a refund minus a 10% service fee, or full credit for another ticket. Then they switched to where it had to be cancelled before boarding. It got really tricky because it's not typically like an airline gate where everyone must go through a single line. Sometimes people end up boarding and a conductor doesn't reach them and after a while they're counted as no-shows, where the remainder of their trip on the same reservation is cancelled. But even then it was generally really flexible where someone could cancel at any time up to the arrival. They've got new management now. The current leader was CEO of Delta Airlines and has gutted everything that really differentiated Amtrak from airline travel.
 
I still can't figure out why Southwest hasn't formed some official policy. They claim that they don't want to an take it on a case by case basis because they don't want the flight attendants to consistently have to enforce a policy that will take them away from their safety duties.

I've seen some fairly reasonable policies. One at at the general admission section of a baseball game, only one can be saved per person. An entire row seems just crazy, and takes good seats away from people who already paid for EBCI.
You do realize that Southwest has no policy against seat saving? You are not "playing by the rules" because there are no rules.

Although I hate seat savers with the rest of them, blame Southwest for not having a seat saving policy.
The last couple of SWA flights I've been on, the FAs announced during boarding that there is no seat saving on Southwest Airlines, and to feel free to take any seat.
 
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And All these posts why I pay a little more and fly JetBlue with the seat assignment. At least you’re not treated like cattle
Well my last experience with Jetblue was two women who wanted to sit together Despite their seat assignments and just Plopped their butts in seats belonging to other passengers.
We were somewhat delayed from leaving on time as the captain kept repeating to sit in ur seats and the Stewardesses kept gently asking rather than Telling them to move.
Finally the people who had those seats gave up!! And we re not talking front of plane here... we were towards the back.
So two selfish nasty females got their way and a couple was kind enough to move to ( apparently) their seats ... which I think were just several rows forward but across row, not next to one another.
Pathetic!
Personally... I would have liked the Offenders to be taken off...I was on the way to a funeral... I am now thankful that it was not our seats taken.. I likely would’ve had my opinion known... tho several of us did stand up with remarks like... come on, ur holding us up!
So no airline is immune from inconsiderate people..we lucked out with kind people being considerate to get us flying.
Karma... it ll find them all
 
Most leisure passengers these days make purchases based on price, and Southwest isn't necessarily the cheapest any more. Personally when I fly to Seattle to visit relatives, I prefer Southwest because they have two included bags and we're not necessarily going crazy over being together with the open seating policy. They also have more flights out of Oakland which is more convenient for me and where there's less issues with weather delays than SFO. However, I'm consistently getting cheaper prices from Delta out of SFO on one of their regional partners like Skywest.

Amtrak used to be an alternative that many people chose because of the flexibility. They had a policy where a no-show could get a refund minus a 10% service fee, or full credit for another ticket. Then they switched to where it had to be cancelled before boarding. It got really tricky because it's not typically like an airline gate where everyone must go through a single line. Sometimes people end up boarding and a conductor doesn't reach them and after a while they're counted as no-shows, where the remainder of their trip on the same reservation is cancelled. But even then it was generally really flexible where someone could cancel at any time up to the arrival. They've got new management now. The current leader was CEO of Delta Airlines and has gutted everything that really differentiated Amtrak from airline travel.
Interesting. I am an old fart, have lived all over the country, and do not know of a single person who ever chose Amtrak as their preferred method of travel due to their flexibility. The only people I have ever known to use Amtrak are those that want a train adventure or on the east coast wanted to bring their car to Florida with them. Most people are in a hurry and don't want to spend hours on a train. They are gutting it because train travel is becoming a relic.
 
The last couple of SWA flights I've been on, the FAs announced during boarding that there is no seat saving on Southwest Airlines, and to feel free to take any seat.

The policy is that each individual crew decides whether or not seat saving is OK. When someone wanted to print out a copy of this discussion, I mentioned that would be useless. It's just an anecdote and not official policy. When people have asked what the official policy is, Southwest public relations have basically said there is none.
 


Interesting. I am an old fart, have lived all over the country, and do not know of a single person who ever chose Amtrak as their preferred method of travel due to their flexibility. The only people I have ever known to use Amtrak are those that want a train adventure or on the east coast wanted to bring their car to Florida with them. Most people are in a hurry and don't want to spend hours on a train. They are gutting it because train travel is becoming a relic.

Depends on where the travel is. Some people don't like driving or lines. There are also small towns that aren't well served by airlines. Amtrak gets a lot of business in college towns.

The big advantage for Amtrak is in the Northeast Corridor. If you're traveling between DC and NYC, that's going to involve a lot of security lines and ground transportation. The train stations are downtown.
 
The policy is that each individual crew decides whether or not seat saving is OK. When someone wanted to print out a copy of this discussion, I mentioned that would be useless. It's just an anecdote and not official policy. When people have asked what the official policy is, Southwest public relations have basically said there is none.
I'll take the crew's word over a PR agent who is trying to soothe a customer's ruffled feathers. And as I said, I've heard this statement about "SWA's policy" from multiple flight crews on different runs.
 
I'll take the crew's word over a PR agent who is trying to soothe a customer's ruffled feathers. And as I said, I've heard this statement about "SWA's policy" from multiple flight crews on different runs.

Usually it was someone asking ahead of time. For your anecdotes there are several from people here mentioning that Southwest flight attendants did nothing to stop passengers from saving seats.

If they had a policy it would have been published and well known. And if you read the Southwest forums, the two top subject tags are "saving seats" and "seat saving". They have produced dozens of responses that there is no official policy.

https://www.southwestaircommunity.com/t5/tag/saving seats/tg-p/board-id/boarding
 
Usually it was someone asking ahead of time. For your anecdotes there are several from people here mentioning that Southwest flight attendants did nothing to stop passengers from saving seats.

If they had a policy it would have been published and well known. And if you read the Southwest forums, the two top subject tags are "saving seats" and "seat saving". They have produced dozens of responses that there is no official policy.

https://www.southwestaircommunity.com/t5/tag/saving seats/tg-p/board-id/boarding
Another poster on this thread reported the same experience as I did. But think what you want. I'm done arguing.
 
I was overjoyed when they started experimenting with assigned seats on flights out of San Diego.
I was disappointed when they stopped the experiment and did not expand it system wide.
But is it almost not an issue now the the kids are grown and we're not trying to get 4 seats together with the kids.

But it is amusing that Southwest business model is low fares, and cattle car seating. And the number one consumer complaint about them? The lack of assigned seating.
 
But it is amusing that Southwest business model is low fares, and cattle car seating. And the number one consumer complaint about them? The lack of assigned seating.
They make a lot of money through people's aversion to open seating, via Early Bird. Offering assigned seats would hurt their bottom line.
 
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Another poster on this thread reported the same experience as I did. But think what you want. I'm done arguing.

I'm not say you didn't experience that. However, for your anecdote there are others saying that seat saving wasn't specifically policed by the crew. There is no consistency; it is up to the crew to determine their own policy.
 
Well my last experience with Jetblue was two women who wanted to sit together Despite their seat assignments and just Plopped their butts in seats belonging to other passengers.
We were somewhat delayed from leaving on time as the captain kept repeating to sit in ur seats and the Stewardesses kept gently asking rather than Telling them to move.
Finally the people who had those seats gave up!! And we re not talking front of plane here... we were towards the back.
So two selfish nasty females got their way and a couple was kind enough to move to ( apparently) their seats ... which I think were just several rows forward but across row, not next to one another.
Pathetic!
Personally... I would have liked the Offenders to be taken off...I was on the way to a funeral... I am now thankful that it was not our seats taken.. I likely would’ve had my opinion known... tho several of us did stand up with remarks like... come on, ur holding us up!
So no airline is immune from inconsiderate people..we lucked out with kind people being considerate to get us flying.
Karma... it ll find them all

Never said Jetblue is perfect however I find Southwest seems to get the most complaints about their policies service and activities

Hence this post which is 90% complaints about Southwest
 
I think I like being cattle. It is so efficient. We took Southwest down to Orlando for vacation this summer. No one gets a plane loaded and ready to fly as quick as they do. Our flight home was on Jetblue. Flying each so close together really shows the difference. I also want to note on the way down we were stuck on the tarmac for a ground stop due to weather and Southwest gave us each a $100 credit voucher. Going home on Jetblue we also had a weather delay in the airport, and an additional delay on the tarmac. Jetblue only response was a survey.
 
Maybe the $25 fee will be for their Hawaii flights
Nope. I booked from the middle of the country to LA (so half way across the country) and EBCI was $25. Both on a Tuesday evening (slower traffic time) and on a busy Sunday evening. Highest fee in their range.
 
I think I like being cattle. It is so efficient. We took Southwest down to Orlando for vacation this summer. No one gets a plane loaded and ready to fly as quick as they do. Our flight home was on Jetblue. Flying each so close together really shows the difference. I also want to note on the way down we were stuck on the tarmac for a ground stop due to weather and Southwest gave us each a $100 credit voucher. Going home on Jetblue we also had a weather delay in the airport, and an additional delay on the tarmac. Jetblue only response was a survey.

Another happy cattle here. Every time we've flown with them, the plane is loaded and ready to go in no time.
 
I think I like being cattle. It is so efficient. We took Southwest down to Orlando for vacation this summer. No one gets a plane loaded and ready to fly as quick as they do. Our flight home was on Jetblue. Flying each so close together really shows the difference. I also want to note on the way down we were stuck on the tarmac for a ground stop due to weather and Southwest gave us each a $100 credit voucher. Going home on Jetblue we also had a weather delay in the airport, and an additional delay on the tarmac. Jetblue only response was a survey.

Another happy cattle here. Every time we've flown with them, the plane is loaded and ready to go in no time.

You do realize when I said "cattle" I was not referring to SW but to large crowds in general. We never do the stand up and wait thing, we sit and let the "cattle" go on planes, sports venues, theaters etc... Why stand in a line when you can relax and leave without being pushed, jostled & elbowed.
 

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