DAS at reopening?

[DisneyOma]

Unofficially, IMO, majority of visitors do want to visit the land & ride, if able. Have observed 2 hour waits to even Enter shops (i’m Talking the one up on 2nd level near dining area...name escapes me but they sell the crystals there.

We visited the first time first week, last Dec, actually extended our trip. It was so busy. At least we did wind up with comp PH due to them not accommodating our time slots. Were able to ride the next day with special FP.

Since then have visited twice, believe we are just under 10 visits. It became increasingly more difficult to get a spot every visit...middle of January, early February (where we were shut out-wah.)

It became a lottery sort of thing vs any sort of skill as to attempting to get a time slot as they started to disappear in less than a minute.

Any sort of ‘normal’ DAS policy would be most welcome for RoTR!

Any "normal" DAS policy without the initial boarding group would be a hot mess - it would turn it into a GAC, basically. Completely unfair to those who have to get a BG.

 

[Disneyfan754321]

I have been watching Tim tracker and it looks like Disney has painted lines on the ground.. if people will follow them is another post.
We were told DAS is going to remain unchanged by a CM on the phone. And if we have any issues getting onto a ride/checking in to see someone under an umbrella they will assist.

 

[lanejudy]

Any "normal" DAS policy without the initial boarding group would be a hot mess - it would turn it into a GAC, basically. Completely unfair to those who have to get a BG.

The boarding group was the virtual queue. Rumor at the moment is that no rides will have a virtual queue, not even RotR. It's all expected to be standby only for all attractions. DAS would therefore not be any particular advantage - no more than usual.

 

[Lilsia]

Even though they are not using the FP lines, does not mean that they are blocked off. When they first opened Smuggler's Run, they were not issuing a FP but they still sent DAS people through that line. I can imagine that they will do the same for all rides now. Most likely they will have a cast member stationed at each FP line entrance to keep people out, so they won't really need extra cast members for it.

 

[lanejudy]

Even though they are not using the FP lines, does not mean that they are blocked off. When they first opened Smuggler's Run, they were not issuing a FP but they still sent DAS people through that line. I can imagine that they will do the same for all rides now. Most likely they will have a cast member stationed at each FP line entrance to keep people out, so they won't really need extra cast members for it.

Possibly. However, I thought they had used the space from the FP queue to reconfigure the standby queue, allowing for social distancing in the queues.

 

[Lilsia]

Possibly. However, I thought they had used the space from the FP queue to reconfigure the standby queue, allowing for social distancing in the queues.

I guess that would work in some rides, but not all of them have "parallel" lines. I would be mad if they were sending some people through the regular line and some through the shorter fast pass line to "spread out" but I got the longer queue.

 

[gap2368]

Even though they are not using the FP lines, does not mean that they are blocked off. When they first opened Smuggler's Run, they were not issuing a FP but they still sent DAS people through that line. I can imagine that they will do the same for all rides now. Most likely they will have a cast member stationed at each FP line entrance to keep people out, so they won't really need extra cast members for it.

I can see this too hard to distended people when the standby FP line run right next to each other for most the line like space mountain. I can see CM standing in the FP line walking up and down making sure people are following the rules then thee few DAS wheelchair user would just walk past the CM and there would be a CM at the mirge point where they would be directing guest to either side

 

[gap2368]

Unofficially, IMO, majority of visitors do want to visit the land & ride, if able. Have observed 2 hour waits to even Enter shops (i’m Talking the one up on 2nd level near dining area...name escapes me but they sell the crystals there.

We visited the first time first week, last Dec, actually extended our trip. It was so busy. At least we did wind up with comp PH due to them not accommodating our time slots. Were able to ride the next day with special FP.

Since then have visited twice, believe we are just under 10 visits. It became increasingly more difficult to get a spot every visit...middle of January, early February (where we were shut out-wah.)

It became a lottery sort of thing vs any sort of skill as to attempting to get a time slot as they started to disappear in less than a minute.

Any sort of ‘normal’ DAS policy would be most welcome for RoTR!

there will be no virtual ques so anyone wanting to ride will have to wait in the standby line this will make the DAS the same

 

[Lilsia]

I can see this too hard to distended people when the standby FP line run right next to each other for most the line like space mountain. I can see CM standing in the FP line walking up and down making sure people are following the rules then thee few DAS wheelchair user would just walk past the CM and there would be a CM at the mirge point where they would be directing guest to either side

You are allowed to walk past people, you will be doing that all day at the parks. So I don't see and issue with distancing if DAS people go through the FP line. How many DAS do you think there will be when it first opens? It will be easy just to let them right through.

 

[gap2368]

You are allowed to walk past people, you will be doing that all day at the parks. So I don't see and issue with distancing if DAS people go through the FP line. How many DAS do you think there will be when it first opens? It will be easy just to let them right through.

This is what I was thinking. But it would be different if they let both standby and FP line then I do not think there would be much distance

 

[gap2368]

This is from the mom panel and this is at the bottom of the page. Again this is not from Disney so just like us speculation

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“Will they still be doing the disability ride passes, so you can have a return time?”
Hi, Lisa! Thanks for bringing your question to the Disney Parks Moms Panel.

As the mom of a child with special needs, one of the reasons why my family returns to Walt Disney World Resort yEAR after yEAR is that they always go above and beyond to make the magic accessible to everyone. My son is on the autism spectrum, and when we visit the Walt Disney World theme parks, we utilize Disability Access Service. I'm happy to let you know that I recently called and spoke with a Cast Member in Disability Services. I was told that Disability Access Service will still be available to Guests whose disabilities prevent them from waiting in a typical queue environment when the Walt Disney World theme parks reopen.

Disability Access Service should operate in much the same manner as it always has, with one minor adjustment. In the past, Guests using Disability Access Service would speak to a Cast Member at an attraction entrance and obtain a ride return time based on that attraction's current standby wait time. When it was time for the Guest to return to the attraction, they would access the ride using the FastPass+ queue. Since the FastPass+ system is temporarily suspended and the FastPass+ queues will be used to help with physical distancing when the theme parks reopen, Guests using Disability Access Service may need to report to a different location at their ride return time. When you obtain your return time, just be sure to ask the Cast Member where you should enter when it's time for you to ride.

Lisa, as you get ready for your upcoming vacation, I think this "Know Before You Go" page will be a great resource for you. I would also recommend keeping an eye on the Disney Parks Blog and the operational updates page on the Walt Disney World Resort website to hEAR all of the latest news about returning to a world of magic. If you have any additional questions, please visit us again.

See ya real soon!
Samantha

 

[Lilsia]

This is from the mom panel and this is at the bottom of the page. Again this is not from Disney so just like us speculation

Panelists have received/will receive a Walt Disney World® Resort or Disneyland® Resort vacation for panelist and up to three family members and/or park tickets for their participation on the Disney Parks Moms Panel. The views expressed in the Panel are those of the panelists, who are independent contractors. These views are not intended to reflect the opinions of Disney Destinations, its affiliates, its management, its agents or its employees and have not been reviewed or approved by Disney Destinations prior to posting.



“Will they still be doing the disability ride passes, so you can have a return time?”
Hi, Lisa! Thanks for bringing your question to the Disney Parks Moms Panel.

As the mom of a child with special needs, one of the reasons why my family returns to Walt Disney World Resort yEAR after yEAR is that they always go above and beyond to make the magic accessible to everyone. My son is on the autism spectrum, and when we visit the Walt Disney World theme parks, we utilize Disability Access Service. I'm happy to let you know that I recently called and spoke with a Cast Member in Disability Services. I was told that Disability Access Service will still be available to Guests whose disabilities prevent them from waiting in a typical queue environment when the Walt Disney World theme parks reopen.

Disability Access Service should operate in much the same manner as it always has, with one minor adjustment. In the past, Guests using Disability Access Service would speak to a Cast Member at an attraction entrance and obtain a ride return time based on that attraction's current standby wait time. When it was time for the Guest to return to the attraction, they would access the ride using the FastPass+ queue. Since the FastPass+ system is temporarily suspended and the FastPass+ queues will be used to help with physical distancing when the theme parks reopen, Guests using Disability Access Service may need to report to a different location at their ride return time. When you obtain your return time, just be sure to ask the Cast Member where you should enter when it's time for you to ride.

Lisa, as you get ready for your upcoming vacation, I think this "Know Before You Go" page will be a great resource for you. I would also recommend keeping an eye on the Disney Parks Blog and the operational updates page on the Walt Disney World Resort website to hEAR all of the latest news about returning to a world of magic. If you have any additional questions, please visit us again.

See ya real soon!
Samantha

Thanks for the info. Should be interesting.

 

[fabfemmeboy]

This is from the mom panel and this is at the bottom of the page. Again this is not from Disney so just like us speculation

Panelists have received/will receive a Walt Disney World® Resort or Disneyland® Resort vacation for panelist and up to three family members and/or park tickets for their participation on the Disney Parks Moms Panel. The views expressed in the Panel are those of the panelists, who are independent contractors. These views are not intended to reflect the opinions of Disney Destinations, its affiliates, its management, its agents or its employees and have not been reviewed or approved by Disney Destinations prior to posting.



“Will they still be doing the disability ride passes, so you can have a return time?”
Hi, Lisa! Thanks for bringing your question to the Disney Parks Moms Panel.

As the mom of a child with special needs, one of the reasons why my family returns to Walt Disney World Resort yEAR after yEAR is that they always go above and beyond to make the magic accessible to everyone. My son is on the autism spectrum, and when we visit the Walt Disney World theme parks, we utilize Disability Access Service. I'm happy to let you know that I recently called and spoke with a Cast Member in Disability Services. I was told that Disability Access Service will still be available to Guests whose disabilities prevent them from waiting in a typical queue environment when the Walt Disney World theme parks reopen.

Disability Access Service should operate in much the same manner as it always has, with one minor adjustment. In the past, Guests using Disability Access Service would speak to a Cast Member at an attraction entrance and obtain a ride return time based on that attraction's current standby wait time. When it was time for the Guest to return to the attraction, they would access the ride using the FastPass+ queue. Since the FastPass+ system is temporarily suspended and the FastPass+ queues will be used to help with physical distancing when the theme parks reopen, Guests using Disability Access Service may need to report to a different location at their ride return time. When you obtain your return time, just be sure to ask the Cast Member where you should enter when it's time for you to ride.

Lisa, as you get ready for your upcoming vacation, I think this "Know Before You Go" page will be a great resource for you. I would also recommend keeping an eye on the Disney Parks Blog and the operational updates page on the Walt Disney World Resort website to hEAR all of the latest news about returning to a world of magic. If you have any additional questions, please visit us again.

See ya real soon!
Samantha

This is what still happens at some rides at DL because not all of the queues are accessible (or the queue might be but the FP queue isn't, etc.). Sometimes you go through a side entrance, sometimes through the exit, sometimes back through the chicken exit, sometimes through a random CM passageway, etc. As long as this is an issue that Disney is aware of (which it appears to be), and as long as they are committed to keeping the DAS pass in something approaching its current form (which all reports point to), then don't worry: they'll figure out where we need to go and will let CMs know. The time they give may still be 10 minutes or so less than the standby line because you still need to go through some weird places, wait for a CM escort, or otherwise traverse the distance between the return point and where you actually board. But you'll find out where you need to go, either when you get your return time or when you come back to ride. At DL, because you get your return times at the separate pavilions, you almost always get directed to the modified entrance when you're ready to ride. It's pretty easy - aside from the time they forgot us in a waiting room at Space Mountain for awhile, but that was an isolated incident!

 

[gap2368]

This is what still happens at some rides at DL because not all of the queues are accessible (or the queue might be but the FP queue isn't, etc.). Sometimes you go through a side entrance, sometimes through the exit, sometimes back through the chicken exit, sometimes through a random CM passageway, etc. As long as this is an issue that Disney is aware of (which it appears to be), and as long as they are committed to keeping the DAS pass in something approaching its current form (which all reports point to), then don't worry: they'll figure out where we need to go and will let CMs know. The time they give may still be 10 minutes or so less than the standby line because you still need to go through some weird places, wait for a CM escort, or otherwise traverse the distance between the return point and where you actually board. But you'll find out where you need to go, either when you get your return time or when you come back to ride. At DL, because you get your return times at the separate pavilions, you almost always get directed to the modified entrance when you're ready to ride. It's pretty easy - aside from the time they forgot us in a waiting room at Space Mountain for awhile, but that was an isolated incident!

I am not concerned at all I was just posting for other guest. I was at WDW haunted mansion and was skipping the starching room. I was waiting at the exit with a card they gave me to let the CM know I was skipping the stretching room and waited over 30 minutes the CM felt so bad that I got 3 anytime FP for the MK that day. So yes things like that can happen but they are rear

 

[DisneyOma]

You are allowed to walk past people, you will be doing that all day at the parks. So I don't see and issue with distancing if DAS people go through the FP line. How many DAS do you think there will be when it first opens? It will be easy just to let them right through.

I don't think the exits will allow for the 6 feet of separation?

With the way Florida is spiking yet again, I wouldn't be surprised if WDW doesn't open as planned.

 

[lanejudy]

I don't think the exits will allow for the 6 feet of separation?

I don't expect that it will always be possible to maintain a 6-ft social distancing. Those who go to the parks at this time need to realize that. Just like at home going out, it's not a guarantee. If that is a concern, folks may need to reconsider their travel plans.

 

[fabfemmeboy]

I don't think the exits will allow for the 6 feet of separation?

I don't expect that it will always be possible to maintain a 6-ft social distancing. Those who go to the parks at this time need to realize that. Just like at home going out, it's not a guarantee. If that is a concern, folks may need to reconsider their travel plans.

Yeah, even the most stringent guidelines in countries that have the virus handled much better than the USA don't say you must always be at least 6 feet from all people at all times for even a moment. For example, the app in the UK (that was eventually abandoned for other reasons) only tracked people with whom you had been within 2 meters for more than 15 minutes. Even in places like grocery stores that have done as much as they can to direct people, to stand apart from one another, you will inevitably pass people. The idea is to reduce the amount of "disease vector juice" (very scientific term) from another person you come in contact with. Masks are part of that. Distancing is part of that. But so is not being near a person for a long period of time. So if I'm walking down the exit and another person is walking towards me, if we both keep walking then we will only be within spitting range of each other for a few seconds, both wearing masks. Very few droplets could potentially pass between us during that brief interaction. That's a very, very low risk of transmission, which is the goal. Compare that to, for example, standing in line for TSMM inside the big snaking line room; if people weren't being spaced 6' apart, you would be standing within spitting distance of a LOT of other people for a lot longer than a few seconds. That's a higher risk because of the number of droplets potentially being transmitted during that time.

It will never be possible to stay 6' from all other people (except your traveling party) at all times unless you basically use your traveling party as a human shield around you DAS or no, you'll be in stores, pass people picking up mobile orders, or be requesting return times at an entry point where others are trying to get into the regular line. That's part of why masks are so important, not only at the parks but elsewhere, and it's why other measures are being implemented as well.

 

[gap2368]

Saw this photo on Twitter it look like CM will be standing in the FP line making sure guest are spaced out correctly and my guess like I said before is DAS user would then go in the FL line when they can you would just be passing a CM for a few seconds.

 

[fabfemmeboy]

Saw this photo on Twitter it look like CM will be standing in the FP line making sure guest are spaced out correctly and my guess like I said before is DAS user would then go in the FL line when they can you would just be passing a CM for a few seconds.

From what I can gather, it's going to vary by attraction. Some of the FP lines may be used as an additional snake space to let people space out better. But for lines like pictured above, going through a narrow space, there is no way to use the FP line for additional queue space while still keeping people apart, at least not easily. It's also the only place that CMs can stand to help enforce rules, remind people of the new protocols, etc. Even then, I'm not sure that they would still have DAS users go down a FP line like this because it looks like there's not enough room for a scooter or other mobility device to get past the CM and nowhere for the CM to step out unless they hop into the space between parties (which is less than 6 feet between the CM and several groups of strangers then). While a mobility issue doesn't get you a DAS, there are plenty of us with comorbid conditions who need to navigate through the FP line on wheels, and while my chair is pretty small with a great turning radius, I have seen some of the new scooter drivers doing their thing and...if I were a CM I might be concerned about the tight squeeze and getting my toes run over!

I think in most circumstances no one will know until people have gone and tried it, and even then it will change day-by-day as they adjust to this new set of circumstances.

 

[lovethattink]

We went to Guest Services and set up my son’s DAS today. We didn’t need it. But were advised that it works the same. Though some fast pass lines won’t be labeled since fp+ isn’t being used. We were told to locate a cm and ask how that attraction’s return time works as they may vary from attraction to attraction.

DAS for AP is still 60 days.

Guest Services can set up your initial return time. After that, you’ll need to locate a cm at an attraction to set up a return time.