Pea-n-Me
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- Jul 18, 2004
There is so much to address in these two posts. Unortunatly I do not have a lot of time today, and also lost my charge.
I will say this, None of us, obviously, know these people - unless we're part of the Markle or Windsor families. But we can read, and see things that are put out there. Some people have or do read more than others. I said it in a pp but give some credit to people for being discerning.
And I'll say it again, too. There is a trial coming up in London as a result of a lawsuit that MEGHAN filed against the Mail. Both Megan and Mr Markle will likely be called as witnesses AND a lot of information will come out. Some has already been supbeonaed. There will be no doubt as to whether Mr Markle had a heart attack and surgery right before the wedding, and whether Meghan authorized her "friends" to talk to People Magazine to tell untruths about Mr Markle that he felt the need to defend. So we shall see.
We also know that Harry is opposed to any contact with the press unless it suits him. I posted it a couple of pages ago but essentially Harry doesn't distinguish, he just hates them all.
I will say this, None of us, obviously, know these people - unless we're part of the Markle or Windsor families. But we can read, and see things that are put out there. Some people have or do read more than others. I said it in a pp but give some credit to people for being discerning.
And I'll say it again, too. There is a trial coming up in London as a result of a lawsuit that MEGHAN filed against the Mail. Both Megan and Mr Markle will likely be called as witnesses AND a lot of information will come out. Some has already been supbeonaed. There will be no doubt as to whether Mr Markle had a heart attack and surgery right before the wedding, and whether Meghan authorized her "friends" to talk to People Magazine to tell untruths about Mr Markle that he felt the need to defend. So we shall see.
We also know that Harry is opposed to any contact with the press unless it suits him. I posted it a couple of pages ago but essentially Harry doesn't distinguish, he just hates them all.
I agree w much of what you've said. To the bolded. In the video I posted today, Mr Markle said that he was approached by someone in 2018, around the time of the engagement, saying that his image, basically was in the toilet, and that he could help him fix that. So naively, he took him up on it, with obviously disastrous consequences. I'm also not sure that he and Samantha are a team.For most people the first instinct is to speak up and attempt to defend yourself. That can sometimes be effective if you stick to the facts as they pertain to yourself and don't resort to flinging mud. Sometimes a situation is a catch 22, where opening your mouth, even with the facts, winds up reflecting badly on you. In those situations you are generally better off relying on leaving it be and letting the other party hang themselves, which they usually do.
When Meghan's father and that branch of the tree started talking to the press what could Meghan have said that would have reflected well on her, even if the truth were on her side? As far as communicating with her father it seems pretty clear that she already had confirmation that any private communication she attempted directly wouldn't resolve his issues and would open the door for further exploitation via the media as, even if he didn't take it directly to the press himself he was likely to share the contents with his other daughter, who demonstrably has an ax to grind. It's pretty clear both sides agree he was absolutely invited to not only attend the wedding, but also expected to walk her down the aisle. That demonstrates his daughter's intent to include her father in a way that honored him. How does that invitation result in his decision to allow the press to photograph him being fitted for the wedding? What did he need the press to communicate for him at that point?
When he received a reaction to this choice things spiraled further downhill. Repeatedly his choice is to "defend" himself -- from the consequences of his own choice that was undertaken for absolutely no understandable reason in the first place. Then the whole medical issue became public. Was it real? Very unclear. It may well be that was the mutually agreed upon reason to cover why he wasn't coming to the wedding afterall. There is the possibility he blinked about coming and the health reason was floated as a way for him to save face and not humiliate his daughter. It's entirely possible he, or he in tandem with his other demonstrably unstable daughter elected to then use the situation to their advantage when they didn't like the response received. Meghan and/or the palace would not want to publicly reveal they participated in perpetuating the medical charade and increase the humiliation.
All of those things could be true and it wouldn't mean Meghan is automatically wonderful and perfect. She could have some of the same aspects about her personality as well, I have no idea. She might react the way that she does to the actions of her father and sister because she's been burned before by the behavior (on a much less public scale). She might react the way that she does to the actions of her father and her sister because she sees right through it because she shares some of those traits. If so it seems that will out as time goes on and the pressures of the choices they've made for a new lifestyle come down on them. For my money the father and the sister have told us who they are and I believe them. It remains to be seen if Meghan tells us and shows us who she is. I personally have a hunch and will wait for time to tell me if I'm on the money or completely fooled.
I don't disagree with you but Meghan in her own words has professed her love for her Dad. Sure, perhaps she could've being abused behind the scenes. But I have not read one word to that effect in the couple of years I've been following it - from anyone or any angle - so I don't really think that applies here. We'll see if more comes out during the lawsuit proceedings.How do you know? Are you related to them, lived in their house? My parents where VERY good at putting on a show. Everyone thought that my Dad was a great guy, that he loved his family so much and did everything for us and put us first. It was all a show. Abusive people are very good at putting on an act and coming across as wonderful people. To the outside eye, it looked like our Dad "gave us so much" but the mental and emotional abuse is not something others see. If Meghan feels like she needs to distance herself, then I am sure that she has her reasons because no one pulls away from a loving family. A no one should disparage a person for doing what they feel is right for them because YOU DON"T KNOW what their family dynamic is like. I pulled away from my parents as an adult and my Mom passed about a decade ago. I could care less. I don't miss her and I don't like the person that she was. My dad is still alive, but I could care less about him either. I have zero regrets about cutting them from my life. No, that is not true, I regret not cutting them out sooner.