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Would you say River Country was the first themed water park?
That I don't know. Water park history is murkier that River Country's pool
Would you say River Country was the first themed water park?
Good to know!Not strictly true - but Walt's implementation made them popular.
I think Santa Claus Land (now Holiday World) in Indiana is credited as the first park specifically built around a theme.
Zebras Removed Permanently After 4 Months from Kilimanjaro Safaris
http://wdwnt.com/zebras-removed-permanently-after-4-months-from-kilimanjaro-safaris/
This is a total red herring, but no, there weren't. Walt Disney created the theme park.
No, there were theme parks in Europe. (Tivoli Gardens for one.) Just not at the level that Walt did it. Walt's great innovation was in deciding that these parks are for everyone. Let the parents ride with the adults.
I'm going to chime in - the failure to successfully integrate Zebra's into the Safari does not = complete and utter Disney incompetence.
And I'm going to disagree with LOL's. Yes, they failed to do what corporate Disney wanted - build a theme park that raked in money hand over fist.
But what the imagineers succeeded in doing was to making beautiful, fascinating them park that rewards the curious and the adventurous versus the average ride hungry theme-park goer.
They made an anti-corporate theme park and got away with it (mostly). For a couple of people (PP2 and LOL) that constantly bash Disney corporate, you'd think you'd be more supportive of a park that went against the corporate grain.
Peter Pirate 2 said:As I think I said,I personally love AK, for all the reasons u mention. But still as a park is it really what it should be? Is it really cohesive? Did they really come close to giving us the best they could?
I keep returning to Walt here. He changed the theme park industry into what it is today almost single handedly. Aren't you just a little sad that he never got his mitts into the zoo biz? But since he was gone by then, isn't sad that no one at Disney had the breadth of vision to imagine a really true Disney zoo? Can't you just imagine how inspiring and entertaining that would be?
Not strictly true - but Walt's implementation made them popular.
I think Santa Claus Land (now Holiday World) in Indiana is credited as the first park specifically built around a theme.
Plus Walt used carnivals, fairs, boardwalks and other venues (such as Tivoli) to define what he was looking for. The term 'theme park' may not yet have been coined but what he developed was an amalgamation of existing entertainment genres.
No, there were theme parks in Europe. (Tivoli Gardens for one.) Just not at the level that Walt did it. Walt's great innovation was in deciding that these parks are for everyone. Let the parents ride with the adults.
I'm going to chime in - the failure to successfully integrate Zebra's into the Safari does not = complete and utter Disney incompetence.
And I'm going to disagree with LOL's. Yes, they failed to do what corporate Disney wanted - build a theme park that raked in money hand over fist.
But what the imagineers succeeded in doing was to making beautiful, fascinating them park that rewards the curious and the adventurous versus the average ride hungry theme-park goer.
They made an anti-corporate theme park and got away with it (mostly). For a couple of people (PP2 and LOL) that constantly bash Disney corporate, you'd think you'd be more supportive of a park that went against the corporate grain.
Please stop lowering the bar and defending animal kingdom...it is what it is. Not the worst, not nearly the best or even in the conversation.
Not really worthy of being close to its two sister parks.
skier_pete said:Not in the mood to argue on a Friday night - I'll simply agree to disagree. AK is a better realized park than the Studios, and is better now than Epcot is now. (Epcot was better initially, but "future" world is a shell of it's former self.)
However, I don't defend Chester and Hester's. That stuff is shiite.
LOL, is it my turn to worry about mi compadres?Wow...better than EPCOT?
EPCOT is the best park ever built by a lot of measurements. It has been neglected (hint...theme), but that doesn't diminished what it is and how ridiculously off the map (no pun intended) it was when they built it.
MGM...I believe...is more indicative of Disney's park decline than when it followed through...I believe.
Wow...are you Skier Pete Rhode?
The place gets people from 8-10 and is nearly vacant by 3...
It's not just me...do about 9 million people a year "not get it"?
Have you considered that maybe there nothing to get? Just maybe...
You know I love ya...but come on
~THANK YOU!!! You've expressed your thoughts beautifully and it's desperately welcome in this sea of negativism!No, there were theme parks in Europe. (Tivoli Gardens for one.) Just not at the level that Walt did it. Walt's great innovation was in deciding that these parks are for everyone. Let the parents ride with the adults.
I'm going to chime in - the failure to successfully integrate Zebra's into the Safari does not = complete and utter Disney incompetence.
And I'm going to disagree with LOL's. Yes, they failed to do what corporate Disney wanted - build a theme park that raked in money hand over fist.
But what the imagineers succeeded in doing was to making beautiful, fascinating them park that rewards the curious and the adventurous versus the average ride hungry theme-park goer.
They made an anti-corporate theme park and got away with it (mostly). For a couple of people (PP2 and LOL) that constantly bash Disney corporate, you'd think you'd be more supportive of a park that went against the corporate grain.
~LOL. Did you say FRIDAY?!? I totally agree with this! You win by a mile!Not in the mood to argue on a Friday night - I'll simply agree to disagree. AK is a better realized park than the Studios, and is better now than Epcot is now. (Epcot was better initially, but "future" world is a shell of it's former self.)
However, I don't defend Chester and Hester's. That stuff is shiite.
Wow. That escalated quickly.
I won't get into the AK vs "successful theme parks" argument. I'll just comment on the original purpose of the thread. Tee hee.
It's not an easy thing for a zoo or aquarium to make the decision to permanently remove animals from an exhibit. There's a lot that goes into it, and it usually comes down to the health and welfare of the collection as a whole.
The zebras at Animal Kingom were likely experiencing some problems, whether those issues stemmed from behavior or health isn't exactly clear, but my guess is that it was a little of both.
As this is the rumors area, I've heard that the Animal Kingdom was having a bit of trouble with sickness among the zebras. As a result large swaths of land had to be burned with a flamethrower in an effort to sanitize things. I'm not sure if that could be seen from the KS vantage point or not, as I haven't been there in quite some time. The staff has done everything they can to take care of the problem and protect the animals.
In this case, it was a decision made on behalf of the animals, and has little to do with making money or visitor experience. It's possible that they could be brought back in once everything is under control, but I respect the decision for now. Better to have no zebras than sick zebras.
Also... to the previous poster who mentioned that they should obtain some pandas, you have no idea how hard that is to do. All pandas housed in US zoos are still property of the Chinese government, and they are very unlikely to give any more. It's possible that pandas born in the US could be transferred to other US facilities who don't currently house them, but quite unlikely. The paperwork alone is nightmarish. Cute animals, but obscenely difficult and expensive to keep.