Teacher handcuffed leaving school board meeting

[Pacolovestacos]

She raised her hand & they addressed her & let her stand & ask her question but then didn’t give her an actual answer.

They allowed her to address her concern. But as soccerdad said, it wasn't a Q&A session. Or perhaps, they simply didn't have an answer for her. The answer is: "Because we want the money for ourselves at your expense."

 

[#1hoosierfan]

At our school board meetings you have to sign up to speak, give your full name and address, can only speak for a certain length of time, no specific complaints will be heard (such as a specific beef about teacher, school, etc) and the board does not have to answer questions.

 

[PollyannaMom]

I haven't read the linked articles, but I saw the story on the news this morning. I personally think her question made a lot of sense, and that they removed her to shut her up. The gap between the top and bottom employees is widening everywhere - not just schools but all sorts of other businesses, and it doesn't feel right to me either. I'm glad she was brave enough to speak up.

 

[leebee]

I heard on TV (and I can't tell you the channel/reporter, so I know, a lousy reference, but it would have been either CBS or MSNBC because that's about all we watch)... I heard on TV that the original charge was resisting arrest, but it was dropped.

 

[smokeyblue]

In the video I watched I can clearly hear the audience say that she was recognized and had the floor. The officer escalated this situation without cause and by doing so violated this woman's civil rights. I would see no problem with her seeking whatever legal remedy is available to her.

 

[Wishing on a star]

I just saw this on the National Nightly News....
What I saw seemed to very clearly show one of the men in control of the meeting give 'that look' and then give a pretty obvious nod/pointing motion, which I think seemed to be given to the Officer, as to say... "Go ahead... take some action...."

And, yes, while I can understand this teachers frustration... she did come off as a bit too outspoken and borderline likely to become belligerant (sp).

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

I heard on TV (and I can't tell you the channel/reporter, so I know, a lousy reference, but it would have been either CBS or MSNBC because that's about all we watch)... I heard on TV that the original charge was resisting arrest, but it was dropped.

Sometimes resisting arrest is a legit charge like when the perp tries to run and the like. But it has too often become a charge they'll try and slap on someone when they really don't have anything. It generally means you made the cop mad and he's got nothing. When he was yelling stop resisting on the tape, she wasn't resisting. When it's the only charge and it's dropped that quickly, it's completely bogus.

In the video I watched I can clearly hear the audience say that she was recognized and had the floor. The officer escalated this situation without cause and by doing so violated this woman's civil rights. I would see no problem with her seeking whatever legal remedy is available to her.

She indeed had the floor The longer version of the video shows it. She was not interrupting them. They were interrupting her. They really didn't have any call to do what they did. Hopefully she gets a settlement for her trouble. Too bad it will be the taxpayer's money instead of the cops and the guy who had her kicked out.

 

[StephMK]

That's what I heard. If this is true, good for the teacher for standing up.

What is the reason that the board would do this and not give raises to other employees?

Because they can.

Maybe that's what she was secretly hoping for in lieu of the raise.

I doubt it. I’m a teacher too and while we can’t know for sure, I don’t think her motivation was getting her own payout.

There is a LOT of injustice in the school system and people do get really passionate about matters of respect and fairness. I would encourage anyone to attend a meeting when there are big issues going on. Very eye opening.

If he makes $150k, (avg super) it is about a 25% raise.

 

[minniecarousel]

From what I saw, she was called on to speak - she wasn’t just shouting out her complaint.

 

[Pacolovestacos]

Because they can.



I doubt it. I’m a teacher too and while we can’t know for sure, I don’t think her motivation was getting her own payout.

There is a LOT of injustice in the school system and people do get really passionate about matters of respect and fairness. I would encourage anyone to attend a meeting when there are big issues going on. Very eye opening.

If he makes $150k, (avg super) it is about a 25% raise.

Like the six figure pensions that some teachers get?

 

[low-key]

 

[LSUmiss]

Because they can.



I doubt it. I’m a teacher too and while we can’t know for sure, I don’t think her motivation was getting her own payout.

There is a LOT of injustice in the school system and people do get really passionate about matters of respect and fairness. I would encourage anyone to attend a meeting when there are big issues going on. Very eye opening.

If he makes $150k, (avg super) it is about a 25% raise.

I think I heard the board members say it was it a 38% raise! And that’s exaxtly what she was asking. She didn’t say anything about her own pay. She talked about the state of the school system itself & all that they need. Louisiana has one of the worst school systems in the country & it’s stuff like this that constantly cripples the districts.

 

[LSUmiss]

Like the six figure pensions that some teachers get?

Uhh I promise you that doesn’t happen in any district in this state. Louisiana is one of the lowest paying in the country.

 

[StephMK]

Like the six figure pensions that some teachers get?

Maybe but I don’t know anyone who has that. I imagine that might be a thing in a high COL area. I’d actually be curious how many collect that.

So is the “boss” getting 25% in a year ok when the “employees” haven’t gotten a raise in 10 years? TEN.

 

[NHdisneylover]

Because they can.



I doubt it. I’m a teacher too and while we can’t know for sure, I don’t think her motivation was getting her own payout.

There is a LOT of injustice in the school system and people do get really passionate about matters of respect and fairness. I would encourage anyone to attend a meeting when there are big issues going on. Very eye opening.

If he makes $150k, (avg super) it is about a 25% raise.

From the article linked in post 24:

"At Monday's meeting, the board approved a renewal of Puyau's contract, which included the first raise he has received since he was hired for the job in 2013. His salary increased from $110,190 to $140,188."

 

[kaytieeldr]

From the article linked in post 24:

"At Monday's meeting, the board approved a renewal of Puyau's contract, which included the first raise he has received since he was hired for the job in 2013. His salary increased from $110,190 to $140,188."

So, inflation would account for about $6,000 of that. So, a 17% raise. 22% total. Not bad. How's his job performance?

 

[NHdisneylover]

So, inflation would account for about $6,000 of that. So, a 17% raise. 22% total. Not bad. How's his job performance?

If you read the linked articled, it sounds like he's done pretty well (at least in so far as the disctrict ranking went up from a B to an A in his first two year there and stays at an A) It seems the reason for upset is that teachers and other staff have not seen even cost of living/inflation raises in at least as long as the superintendent's salaray remained fixed and are not seeing one now. Obviously, teachers working directly with students are a big part of any school or district success as well. Here is an article with a breakdown on the salary issues:

http://klfy.com/2018/01/10/vermilion-parish-superintendent-teacher-salary-break-down/

Regardless, whether or not one favours giving the raise to the superintendent should have any bearing on deciding if the teacher was out of order in speaking, or so uch so that she should be removed from the meeting, handcuffed, etc

 

[Soldier's*Sweeties]

I just saw this on the National Nightly News....
What I saw seemed to very clearly show one of the men in control of the meeting give 'that look' and then give a pretty obvious nod/pointing motion, which I think seemed to be given to the Officer, as to say... "Go ahead... take some action...."

And, yes, while I can understand this teachers frustration... she did come off as a bit too outspoken and borderline likely to become belligerant (sp).

I didn’t think she was belligerent at all. She spoke with a firm tone and inflection that left no doubt how she felt.
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I still stand by my opinion that we don’t know how it escalated to an arrest(if we do I’m sorry I missed that). However it is a little sketchy that it was done by a school resource officer working for the district as opposed to an unbiased officer hired to work security or something.

 

[Pacolovestacos]

I didn’t think she was belligerent at all. She spoke with a firm tone and inflection that left no doubt how she felt.
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I still stand by my opinion that we don’t know how it escalated to an arrest(if we do I’m sorry I missed that). However it is a little sketchy that it was done by a school resource officer working for the district as opposed to an unbiased officer hired to work security or something.

Yes BUT when the officer tells you to go, it's time to go. Even if you think you're in the right, you have to follow the instructions. It can be sorted out later on.

 

[Cogswel_Cogs]

When a law enforcement officer tells you something, you are supposed to listen. And follow the directives.