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Our schools cover The Holocaust extensively. Our State is one of the ones where it is mandatory but I feel our district goes above and beyond what is required. They know more about it than I do, and I'm a Gen Xer
 
I work for a large Energy Company (Oil Company). I am 58 years old and work with millenials. I had one sitting next to me for a while and we used to have long discussions about the differences in generations and he really made sense and helped me understand a few things. Fist let me say he was not typical of his generation. He was smart, Jewish, Politically involved and would fly from Houston to DC and other areas to work on the presidential campaigns in 2016. He was well connected not necessarily through family but by his own efforts. When I might complain about his generation from time to time, he would not get upset but rather explain the why's as he saw it that they acted the way they did. First was the fact that many of his generation did not want to work for corporate America simply because all their lives they have been given a seat at the table when it came to making decsions. They could not deal with corporate settings because it was too hierachical. They don't want to be told what to do, they want to be a part of the discussion and have a say in things. Secondly money was not as important to many of them, quality of work and quality of life and life experiences were in many instances much more important. He has worked on politics, run with the bulls in Pamplona and toured Holicost Sites in Germany in his 26 years. The classic education experience is not and never has been important to their generation. By classical I mean an education in the Arts, Science, and History. They want to study what they want to study and not have their education dictated to them by someone else. That means they might not be aware of certain historical things because at the end of the day it is just not important to them. They are not dumb, they are not lazy, they just don't like established structure.

I have to pause at this point and say like any description of a group of people, this is not the singular definitive description of the generation but rather a wide ranging description of the larger group and there will be countless exceptions to these observations.

They tend to not trust a lot of things because to an extent they feel the prior generations have screwed things up a little and forced standardized testing on them, media that cannot be trusted and a global situation that is less than perfect. They tend to be more liberal in their thinking (although my co worker is actually staunchly conservative) and see more of a global citizenship than a more nationalistic view of things. They have not suffered many bad things in their lives therefore they have a more upbeat view of things (ah youth!). They want everyone to be taken care of and with some exceptions hate corporate America (except, Facebook, Google, Amazon, and any free wheeling tech type company because that's where a lot of them want to work) They value freedom and lot's of vacation more that money.

So while any interviewer can walk on the street and ask questions that are commonplace for our generation but millenials will stumble all over, it does not mean for one second they are stupid. They are quite bright but those things don't interest them and in the internet/information age we live in they cannot keep up with it all but rather only focus on that which interests them.

And finally as another poster commented, they are a function of the generation that raised them so don't be too critical on yourself.
 


I work for a large Energy Company (Oil Company). I am 58 years old and work with millenials. I had one sitting next to me for a while and we used to have long discussions about the differences in generations and he really made sense and helped me understand a few things. Fist let me say he was not typical of his generation. He was smart, Jewish, Politically involved and would fly from Houston to DC and other areas to work on the presidential campaigns in 2016. He was well connected not necessarily through family but by his own efforts. When I might complain about his generation from time to time, he would not get upset but rather explain the why's as he saw it that they acted the way they did. First was the fact that many of his generation did not want to work for corporate America simply because all their lives they have been given a seat at the table when it came to making decsions. They could not deal with corporate settings because it was too hierachical. They don't want to be told what to do, they want to be a part of the discussion and have a say in things. Secondly money was not as important to many of them, quality of work and quality of life and life experiences were in many instances much more important. He has worked on politics, run with the bulls in Pamplona and toured Holicost Sites in Germany in his 26 years. The classic education experience is not and never has been important to their generation. By classical I mean an education in the Arts, Science, and History. They want to study what they want to study and not have their education dictated to them by someone else. That means they might not be aware of certain historical things because at the end of the day it is just not important to them. They are not dumb, they are not lazy, they just don't like established structure.

I have to pause at this point and say like any description of a group of people, this is not the singular definitive description of the generation but rather a wide ranging description of the larger group and there will be countless exceptions to these observations.

They tend to not trust a lot of things because to an extent they feel the prior generations have screwed things up a little and forced standardized testing on them, media that cannot be trusted and a global situation that is less than perfect. They tend to be more liberal in their thinking (although my co worker is actually staunchly conservative) and see more of a global citizenship than a more nationalistic view of things. They have not suffered many bad things in their lives therefore they have a more upbeat view of things (ah youth!). They want everyone to be taken care of and with some exceptions hate corporate America (except, Facebook, Google, Amazon, and any free wheeling tech type company because that's where a lot of them want to work) They value freedom and lot's of vacation more that money.

So while any interviewer can walk on the street and ask questions that are commonplace for our generation but millenials will stumble all over, it does not mean for one second they are stupid. They are quite bright but those things don't interest them and in the internet/information age we live in they cannot keep up with it all but rather only focus on that which interests them.

And finally as another poster commented, they are a function of the generation that raised them so don't be too critical on yourself.
I have said this before, but one of the best conferences I ever attended was one on navigating generational and cultural differences in the workplace. It's a fascinating subject! And it's not meant to be critical, either, but rather simply taking a look at how each generation grew up, what their early influences were, how they view the world, and what their outlook is, etc., as you've described. I also work with people from various generations and cultures so it's been really helpful having even a small understanding of where everyone is coming from. I just wish that all could enjoy the same perspective. Members of various groups, in general, are often quick to criticize one another without trying to understand them or appreciating their point of view. It's something we can all work on.
 
I teach about the Holocaust. We do a six week unit, which includes a literature circle book about the Holocaust, many video clips about the history aspect, The Diary of Anne Frank play, the Pyramid of Hate, etc. At the end, the students create artifacts for our Holocaust museum. The artifacts they created this year were amazing. I've taught Millenials, and worked with them, and they generally get a undeserved bad rap. I find it hard to believe that so many think the earth is flat.
 
I teach about the Holocaust. We do a six week unit, which includes a literature circle book about the Holocaust, many video clips about the history aspect, The Diary of Anne Frank play, the Pyramid of Hate, etc. At the end, the students create artifacts for our Holocaust museum. The artifacts they created this year were amazing. I've taught Millenials, and worked with them, and they generally get a undeserved bad rap. I find it hard to believe that so many think the earth is flat.
I'm a millennial.
I remember learning WAY more about the Holocaust than actual WWII growing up. When I got to college it was kind of switched. The history courses that teach that time period are based more on the war strategies, politics, and economics.
 


I think a lot of older people appreciate that our society and our culture have been shifting at a rapid pace for the last few decades. I think a lot of those same people cannot appreciate the challenges of growing up in the midst of such change.

We have family members who spend an awful lot of time pontificating about how much better, more accomplished, etc., etc. their generations are to millennials. I've discovered that quite frequently if I sit back and really pay attention it all boils down to things that they are insecure about in themselves, thinking that if they point the finger elsewhere no one will notice their shortcomings.
 
I'm a millennial.
I remember learning WAY more about the Holocaust than actual WWII growing up. When I got to college it was kind of switched. The history courses that teach that time period are based more on the war strategies, politics, and economics.

I was born during the Vietnam War. I never had any coursework in HS or college that focused on Vietnam. When I reached college it seemed that much of the impetus was pushing us to study current and very recent events. Pursuing my major didn't really allow for me to pursue study of historical events and eras that I didn't cover in HS. Curriculum was more set in stone during my K-12 years -- much more than it was for my daughters. They are four years apart in age and curriculum was different all the way through between the two of them. They had different credit requirements to complete HS, despite graduating from the same school as well.

I've heard many older people be very critical about gaps in the educations of Millennials. It's not appreciated if you point out that the K-12 curriculum for Millennials wasn't dictated by Millennials.
 
On the whole, I think older folks are typically critical of young people. Most of the time it is out of concern, but easily interpreted differently. And, education standards and the effectiveness of the federal dept. of education are topics filled with land mines.
 
I was born during the Vietnam War. I never had any coursework in HS or college that focused on Vietnam. When I reached college it seemed that much of the impetus was pushing us to study current and very recent events. Pursuing my major didn't really allow for me to pursue study of historical events and eras that I didn't cover in HS. Curriculum was more set in stone during my K-12 years -- much more than it was for my daughters. They are four years apart in age and curriculum was different all the way through between the two of them. They had different credit requirements to complete HS, despite graduating from the same school as well.

I've heard many older people be very critical about gaps in the educations of Millennials. It's not appreciated if you point out that the K-12 curriculum for Millennials wasn't dictated by Millennials.


So many memes float around of "Back in my day". These make me sick...back in your day the world was quite different.

I so agree that most people who complain about "others" whether it be millennials or race or culture or religion have not spent time around many of them and have biases based on hearsay and perceived ideas. Not facts.

Such a modern day culture war, based on fear and assumption.
 
On the whole, I think older folks are typically critical of young people. Most of the time it is out of concern, but easily interpreted differently. And, education standards and the effectiveness of the federal dept. of education are topics filled with land mines.
See I don't usually see it as concern-at least majority. I do think some is out of concern for sure.

Honestly, there are things I see complaints on but are parents and guardians and to certain extents society actively removing the ability for exposure. You can't fly if your wings are clipped and you're stuck in a cage YKWIM?
 
I'm in California and this article was in the paper yesterday. The Jewish community here feels differently.
http://www.sacbee.com/latest-news/article208967484.html

I went to High School in New Jersey (Freshman and Sophomore years) and CA (junior and senior years). I learned about the Holocaust in NJ. Once I started school in CA, it was never mentioned in either history or English classes. I found that pretty crazy.

My oldest son is in 8th grade in CA. Nothing yet about the holocaust except a brief fictional story in 7th grade about it.
 
On the whole, I think older folks are typically critical of young people. Most of the time it is out of concern, but easily interpreted differently. And, education standards and the effectiveness of the federal dept. of education are topics filled with land mines.

:rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2: So,the last millennials who told us we were doing it all wrong were just poor picked on people by us older folks :rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2:

All of them got their jobs because of nepotism not merit. :rotfl::rotfl: None of them could cut it & all called on mommy & daddy to save them. Yup higher minds prevailed.
 
I'm in California and this article was in the paper yesterday. The Jewish community here feels differently.
http://www.sacbee.com/latest-news/article208967484.html

I’m sure that the holocaust has probably been deemed far to horrific for certain students to hear about, and in an effort to offend no one and make sure everyone feels safe and happy that it’s just best to omit the subject. After all, there are whole countries in the Middle East that don’t even think it happened.
 
I'm in California and this article was in the paper yesterday. The Jewish community here feels differently.
http://www.sacbee.com/latest-news/article208967484.html
That was an interesting article thanks for the link. In 4th or 5th grade we had a gentleman come talk with us who was a survivor and had his number tattooed to his arm. It wasn't many years ago there was a gentleman in front of me at a Publix on Longboat Key who had the tattoo. It's sad to think that this horrible time is not being taught.
 
:rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2: So,the last millennials who told us we were doing it all wrong were just poor picked on people by us older folks :rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2:

All of them got their jobs because of nepotism not merit. :rotfl::rotfl: None of them could cut it & all called on mommy & daddy to save them. Yup higher minds prevailed.

Nope, I think this took it a bit far. For example, more often than not, older folks really aren’t fans of the younger generations choice in music. I am very certain that what’s considered “important” changes as does opinion. More often than not the older generation have a very difficult time adjusting to the new norms.
 

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