The walking dead amc #2

[lovin'fl]

I guess it's better for his family time to make a 2 hour movie over X number of days-weeks and be done than to be making 13-16 hours of episodes over months.

 

[anniemae]

Does anyone have any insight or personal theories for why they’re doing it this way with the spin-off movies? It seems so bizarre to me. If Andrew Lincoln wanted to be done with TWD, why would he agree to do the movies? If he was willing to stay in his role as Rick Grimes, then why not just keep filming the show, at least long enough to wrap up his storyline? I could understand if they were developing an entirely new spin-off series that was to continue indefinitely — split your cast and try to bring viewership to both series. That would make sense. But to take the lead character out of the show and wrap up his storyline in a trilogy of made-for-tv movies while the original series carries on.... I’m not understanding the benefit/reasoning/goals for doing it this way.

It sounds odd to me too. It sounds like they are going to do multiple movies as well as specials. Gimple said they will show past and future characters, what is going on in different areas of the apocalypse, and back stories.

 

[nemofans]

It sounds odd to me too. It sounds like they are going to do multiple movies as well as specials. Gimple said they will show past and future characters, what is going on in different areas of the apocalypse, and back stories.

Yes, and they will be showing what's happening around the world. They know they are losing fans, so maybe they think this will mix things up or will bring in more money than just doing the traditional season to season show.

 

[TipsyTraveler]

It sounds odd to me too. It sounds like they are going to do multiple movies as well as specials. Gimple said they will show past and future characters, what is going on in different areas of the apocalypse, and back stories.

Ooh, I just thought of something. Could it be fear of cancellation? Wrap up the main plot points in the movies so nothing major is left unaddressed in the event the show is cancelled, but at the same time try to reenergize and keep the show going with new cast members and somewhat less integral plotlines as long as possible for those sweet, sweet advertising dollars? A hedging of their bets, if you will.

 

[nkereina]

Wasn’t he going off to look for his wife? He’d just found a note from her? Or have we seen him since that?

Oh ok, yes I remember this. I wasn't sure if that was the last time we saw him. So he's bound to re-appear at some point.

 

[TipsyTraveler]

Oh ok, yes I remember this. I wasn't sure if that was the last time we saw him. So he's bound to re-appear at some point.

Probably in his own spin-off movie.

 

[mckennarose]

Does anyone have any insight or personal theories for why they’re doing it this way with the spin-off movies? It seems so bizarre to me. If Andrew Lincoln wanted to be done with TWD, why would he agree to do the movies? If he was willing to stay in his role as Rick Grimes, then why not just keep filming the show, at least long enough to wrap up his storyline? I could understand if they were developing an entirely new spin-off series that was to continue indefinitely — split your cast and try to bring viewership to both series. That would make sense. But to take the lead character out of the show and wrap up his storyline in a trilogy of made-for-tv movies while the original series carries on.... I’m not understanding the benefit/reasoning/goals for doing it this way.

Gimple:
"Andy loves the show and loves doing the show, but doing the show just had some practical difficulties towards being in England," chief content officer Scott M. Gimple tells The Hollywood Reporter about the reasons behind Lincoln's Walking Dead transition. "Rick Grimes is an amazing character and he's done an amazing performance and there were story ideas brewing that, as the years went on, seemed very compatible with continuing telling the Rick story in another format that would allow him time."
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/l...ick-grimes-fate-controversy-explained-1157976

The article is very interesting. However, I am convinced that this whole "Rick Grimes final episodes" was a bait and switch ala Gimple.
More from the article:
"Fans who entered Lincoln's final episode expecting his character's demise, and therefore feeling cheated by his survival, should note that the reasons Gimple, Kang and even Lincoln gave for the actor's departure over the past few months were all true all along: it was indeed a personal matter, as Lincoln could no longer spend months and months of his life at a time in Atlanta away from his family, based in England. Here's the part that was left out of all that talk: Lincoln was more than happy to continue playing Rick, albeit in a more limited and focused capacity.

"Realistically I couldn't give the time [to the series]," says Lincoln. "It was all about time, this decision. And for me to want to just do a limited number of episodes a year wouldn't feel like I was doing my job properly, just because of the nature of playing this part has been so all-encompassing. I think I would get frustrated with that. So the idea of being able to contain the story and still work just as hard and tell a different story in maybe a more expansive narrative way seemed very exciting to me." "

If they are, and have been in talks for a different story line for Rick Grimes compatible with Andrew Lincoln's life in England, then Gimple was using it to misdirect fans again. That doesn't win points with fans....again.

Another article:
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/l...hise-deals-danai-gurira-eyes-new-pact-1158025
An interesting part:

"The new pacts are described as groundbreaking in that they stretch beyond traditional series/overall deals and allow both Reedus and McBride — who started as recurring in season one and have been regulars since season two when they made $8,500 per episode — to move freely among new projects in The Walking Dead universe. That expansion, which is being overseen by chief content officer Scott M. Gimple, started Sunday when AMC spun-off leading man Andrew Lincoln — whose Rick Grimes has been the focus of both the comic book source material and the series itself — to a trio of big-budget, feature-length movies to air on AMC. The pacts for Reedus and McBride allow both to move freely among the franchise as Gimple charts a course that includes revisiting characters who have come and gone with anything from new series, digital offshoots and miniseries, among others."

And:
"Still, while Lincoln's AMC Studios-backed series of feature-length TV movies will begin production next year with Gimple at the helm, he insists that the flagship series will remain the top priority as it awaits its season 10 renewal with showrunner Angela Kang at the helm.

"Seeing other characters from the show in other ways is absolutely a possibility. But The Walking Dead will remain The Walking Dead and telling great stories with Carol, Daryl and Michonne. So that is the priority with those characters," Gimple told THR."

I did skim the episode and thought parts were well done. It was intriguing to see the Whisperers arc. I guess I'm not all the way done with the show yet....

 

[areno79]

Theory is A is alpha (leader) and B beta (follower) and As get killed to become strong walkers they use for some reason. And Bs are kept to be worker bees. She likely told them Rick is a B to save him. I thought she told Gabriel 'I thought you were a ..." couldn't hear. Did she think he was an A but turned out to be a B?

Jadis told Gabriel she thought he was a B but he turned out to be an A.

 

[TipsyTraveler]

Gimple:
"Andy loves the show and loves doing the show, but doing the show just had some practical difficulties towards being in England," chief content officer Scott M. Gimple tells The Hollywood Reporter about the reasons behind Lincoln's Walking Dead transition. "Rick Grimes is an amazing character and he's done an amazing performance and there were story ideas brewing that, as the years went on, seemed very compatible with continuing telling the Rick story in another format that would allow him time."
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/l...ick-grimes-fate-controversy-explained-1157976

The article is very interesting. However, I am convinced that this whole "Rick Grimes final episodes" was a bait and switch ala Gimple.
More from the article:
"Fans who entered Lincoln's final episode expecting his character's demise, and therefore feeling cheated by his survival, should note that the reasons Gimple, Kang and even Lincoln gave for the actor's departure over the past few months were all true all along: it was indeed a personal matter, as Lincoln could no longer spend months and months of his life at a time in Atlanta away from his family, based in England. Here's the part that was left out of all that talk: Lincoln was more than happy to continue playing Rick, albeit in a more limited and focused capacity.

"Realistically I couldn't give the time [to the series]," says Lincoln. "It was all about time, this decision. And for me to want to just do a limited number of episodes a year wouldn't feel like I was doing my job properly, just because of the nature of playing this part has been so all-encompassing. I think I would get frustrated with that. So the idea of being able to contain the story and still work just as hard and tell a different story in maybe a more expansive narrative way seemed very exciting to me." "

If they are, and have been in talks for a different story line for Rick Grimes compatible with Andrew Lincoln's life in England, then Gimple was using it to misdirect fans again. That doesn't win points with fans....again.

Another article:
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/l...hise-deals-danai-gurira-eyes-new-pact-1158025
An interesting part:

"The new pacts are described as groundbreaking in that they stretch beyond traditional series/overall deals and allow both Reedus and McBride — who started as recurring in season one and have been regulars since season two when they made $8,500 per episode — to move freely among new projects in The Walking Dead universe. That expansion, which is being overseen by chief content officer Scott M. Gimple, started Sunday when AMC spun-off leading man Andrew Lincoln — whose Rick Grimes has been the focus of both the comic book source material and the series itself — to a trio of big-budget, feature-length movies to air on AMC. The pacts for Reedus and McBride allow both to move freely among the franchise as Gimple charts a course that includes revisiting characters who have come and gone with anything from new series, digital offshoots and miniseries, among others."

And:
"Still, while Lincoln's AMC Studios-backed series of feature-length TV movies will begin production next year with Gimple at the helm, he insists that the flagship series will remain the top priority as it awaits its season 10 renewal with showrunner Angela Kang at the helm.

"Seeing other characters from the show in other ways is absolutely a possibility. But The Walking Dead will remain The Walking Dead and telling great stories with Carol, Daryl and Michonne. So that is the priority with those characters," Gimple told THR."

I did skim the episode and thought parts were well done. It was intriguing to see the Whisperers arc. I guess I'm not all the way done with the show yet....

Huh, and here I thought TWD was in its death throes. Apparently, it’s just getting started!

 

[mckennarose]

Huh, and here I thought TWD was in its death throes. Apparently, it’s just getting started!

You know Gimple will milk it for all it's worth! LOL!
Kinda like someone else I know.....

 

[TipsyTraveler]

Jadis told Gabriel she thought he was a B but he turned out to be an A.

Do we remember the context in which she said that? Had Gabriel just done something to impress her, so her reclassifying him as an “A” would fit with the theory of As being alpha and Bs being weaker?

 

[areno79]

Do we remember the context in which she said that? Had Gabriel just done something to impress her, so her reclassifying him as an “A” would fit with the theory of As being alpha and Bs being weaker?

Yeah...I can't remember what, but I think it was right after he suspected her of being the killer of the saviors. I *think* it's when he followed her to the junkyard.

 

[lovin'fl]

Jadis asked Gabriel to follow her away from there and he said no, that he wanted to be part of the big picture that Rick had planned of saving humanity. She then told him she thought he was a B (follower).

 

[nemofans]

I still think he is a B, just Rick's B, not hers.

So Carol & Daryl can be in the movies/mini series as well? Interesting...

Oh and yes, this was a whole trick by Gimple. I can't stand him! I knew the whole "Rick's last episode" was going to be a scam. He wanted everyone to think he was going to die. That's why he was willing to advertise it. It was part of the scam. Doesn't he understand how much the fans hate when he pulls this crap?

 

[emmybee]

After all that, TWD better have an airtight explanation as to why Rick wouldn't move heaven & earth to get back to his family. Why would he let them continue to think he was dead? I'll wait, albeit skeptically.

 

[DisneyLover1217]

After all that, TWD better have an airtight explanation as to why Rick wouldn't move heaven & earth to get back to his family. Why would he let them continue to think he was dead? I'll wait, albeit skeptically.

There could be a couple of scenarios to explain that, amnesia or brought to an island where it is impossible to escape from.

 

[nemofans]

Well, since it has recently been more like a soap opera storyline, I'd bet on the amnesia scenario.

 

[monica9]

Do we remember the context in which she said that? Had Gabriel just done something to impress her, so her reclassifying him as an “A” would fit with the theory of As being alpha and Bs being weaker?

It's when he didn't give in and go with her. He stood up for himself and didn't "follow" like a "B" would.[/QUOTE]

 

[monica9]

Ooh, I just thought of something. Could it be fear of cancellation? Wrap up the main plot points in the movies so nothing major is left unaddressed in the event the show is cancelled, but at the same time try to reenergize and keep the show going with new cast members and somewhat less integral plotlines as long as possible for those sweet, sweet advertising dollars? A hedging of their bets, if you will.

I disagree. As you can see with them introducing fear, I think they have a large imagination and want to expand it past just a one show series. There are so many opportunities to expand this story line into different directions. For instance, I'd love to see how people are getting by in other parts of the world with the walkers.

 

[lovin'fl]

For me I am not into zombie stories...never was...it's a ridiculous concept. But I fell in love with season 2 TWD (that's when I began watching) based on the story of those folks. I don't wanna see Fear or other movies showing the ZA in other parts of the world...don't wanna see any backstories or future stories of randos. I wanted to follow that first group (most are dead now so.....that's it).

They should have killed off Daryl instead of Carl and maybe we'd have Carl and Rick still. And more reason for me to care. So who do I have now...Maggie, Carol and Daryl??? And Daryl's not in the comics so I always wished they'd off him.

It's a lot like Grey's Anatomy. Loved it and watched season after season. But then all the good ones slowly left and we'd get new terrible actors that I could never really give a crap about. That show should have gone out on top (like Seinfeld) and quit many many seasons ago. Same for this show.