Do You Consider Yourself a Feminist?

[Hrhpd]

I’m not sure the women in Georgia would agree with you.

or Alabama

To answer the question, yes.

 

[Searc]

Of course I am a feminist. Every woman should be.

 

[slpeters]

Absolutely

 

[BrianL]

Actually if it’s not a law it’s not a right. Or is it it’s not a right unless it’s a law?

That's not entirely true. In the US, the Constitution provides that not all rights are enumerated by law. Now, in practice that can get tricky, but a right does not strictly require a law.

 

[Hrhpd]

Letting government make medical decisions for anyone is a slippery slope, no matter the chromosomal makeup of the person.

Women are seeing it affect their decisions about their bodies, anti-vaxxers are losing their rights to make medical decisions for their children. You hear more and more about courts taking away the rights of people to make their own decisions. What's next? Going one step further than China, mandatory spaying and neutering after 1 child? Age limits on Chemo? Mandatory surgeries for children that a parent may not agree with?

Be careful what you wish for. Making one procedure controlled by the government opens the door to the government controlling other medical decisions, a medical decision you may hold dear to you.

It is possible to be both pro-choice and pro-life. Pro-choice just means that any medical decision, should be between the patient, their doctor, and if warranted, their god. Old farts sitting in some rotunda should not be making blanket medical decisions for anyone.

I am a feminist in the fact that I believe that men and women should have complete power over their own lives; medically, socially, and in the work place. Equality in every area.

And I don't hate men. I don't like that newest nuance of feminism.

And for the record, due to better birth control and better health options, the country is at the lowest abortion rate ever, even when it was illegal. The only thing different is that thousands and thousands of women are not dying in back alleys with sepsis.

 

[mnrose]

The percentage of female CEOs in Fortune 500 companies is horrible. It's around 5%.

It was made GLARINGLY obvious to me when I sat on a recent meeting of the joint elected leaders of my city and neighboring township. 10 people. 1 woman. Me. That's it. Pretty damn sad. More than 1/2 the residents of both of those areas are female. Yet, ONE woman's voice is heard in matters affecting us all. This should not be in the year 2019 in America. Pathetic.

 

[cvjw]

I’m not sure the women in Georgia would agree with you.

Woman in Georgia here and I have every right that a man has.

 

[mnrose]

The only feminist I could be is a pro life feminist.

Are you pro life or pro birth? Pro life is against the death penalty (in all cases). Pro life would also, I would think, support health care, day care, etc for that child once born. Otherwise, it's not really "pro life" just pro making sure that baby is born. I also resent that term because it implies, very erroneously, that those of us who support choice are either "pro death" or "pro abortion." I can assure you that I am neither.

 

[pearlieq]

I also hate to see some of these comments. Great women (and men) fought for what we currently have. The work is far from done.

Of course I'm a feminist. I don't understand how anyone isn't.

Some of these comments are so depressing. I find my teeth especially set on edge by the vein of, "No, I'm not a feminist, I just enjoy the right to vote and own property and have a credit card in my own name, and a (tenuous) claim to bodily autonomy that generations of feminists fought for".

 

[mnrose]

Of course I'm a feminist. I don't understand how anyone isn't.

Some of these comments are so depressing. I find my teeth especially set on edge by the vein of, "No, I'm not a feminist, I just enjoy the right to vote and own property and have a credit card in my own name, and a (tenuous) claim to bodily autonomy that generations of feminists fought for".

Exactly. I think there's an entire generation of women who do not understand that you COULD NOT get credit in your own name as a woman until the 1960's. Crazy. Couldn't get birth control from the doctor without your HUSBAND's permission. What the ever loving hell. Do people really think that men woke up one day and said "no that's not right." Heck no. These are things woman fought for.

Heck, "sex" was included as a category in the Civil Rights Act of 1964 as a ploy to DEFEAT the bill. The guy who offered the amendment to add "sex" (to the list of race, religion, etc) did so because he thought FOR SURE that people would balk at the idea of giving women rights. Fortunately, for women everywhere, his gambit backfired and the law passed as amended. But, goodness people, that is within MY lifetime. It was considered so ridiculous that he thought he could kill the entire bill. SMH.

ETA: Link to a longish article about the history of women's rights in the law. From the American Bar Association. https://www.americanbar.org/groups/...s_vol31_2004/summer2004/irr_hr_summer04_gaps/

 

[DLgal]

Because as a woman I know I have the same rights as men. You are claiming I don’t. The onus is on you here to show what you claim I don’t have.

You might THINK you do, because you haven't encountered a situation where you find out that, by law, you do not. You can think you are equal to men all you want, but until 100% of the states in this country ratify the Equal Rights Amendment, the FACT is that women do not have equality under the law in all aspects of their lives in America.

 

[SaintsManiac]

Yes.

If only some of the people in this thread could come work with me for a week! They would see gender discrimination in real time. It’s infuriating.

 

[J'aime Paris]

I changed my mind about being a little concerned. This thread is terrifying.

Why?
Because some people have thoughts or experiences that don't align with yours?

 

[Pea-n-Me]

I think this may just be scratching the surface, but:

Why So Many Young Women Don't Call Themselves Feminist:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-47006912

"people do not appear to reject the term feminism because they are against gender equality or believe it has been achieved. (As has been said many times in this thread.)

It could be that they do not feel the term speaks to them."

I'll add that some of the antics of those representing "feminism" in the past few years have been a turn off to many.

But that doesn't necessarily mean that those same people are opposed to the basic principles of equal rights, the right to choose, autonomy of decision making, and support of women's rights worldwide, etc.

 

[kimblebee]

Exactly. I think there's an entire generation of women who do not understand that you COULD NOT get credit in your own name as a woman until the 1960's. Crazy. Couldn't get birth control from the doctor without your HUSBAND's permission. What the ever loving hell. Do people really think that men woke up one day and said "no that's not right." Heck no. These are things woman fought for.

Heck, "sex" was included as a category in the Civil Rights Act of 1964 as a ploy to DEFEAT the bill. The guy who offered the amendment to add "sex" (to the list of race, religion, etc) did so because he thought FOR SURE that people would balk at the idea of giving women rights. Fortunately, for women everywhere, his gambit backfired and the law passed as amended. But, goodness people, that is within MY lifetime. It was considered so ridiculous that he thought he could kill the entire bill. SMH.

ETA: Link to a longish article about the history of women's rights in the law. From the American Bar Association. https://www.americanbar.org/groups/...s_vol31_2004/summer2004/irr_hr_summer04_gaps/

In the 80’s or early 90’s my mom was told she had to get my dads permission to open a store credit card in her name...even though she had a joint account with my dad at the same department store.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Watching the news and they just said a woman will be going to the moon.

 

[underdesea]

I’m not sure the women in Georgia would agree with you.

Or in Alabama.

 

[Hrhpd]

Woman in Georgia here and I have every right that a man has.

Sure you do.
Your state now has the power to investigate you for a natural miscarriage. And we all know how fair governments are. How many women will be prosecuted because some man will decide that the woman did something to cause the miscarriage? This should terrify every woman.

There is not a single natural medical condition a man could serve a life sentence for through no fault of their own.

Might as well make prostate cancer a felony too. Makes about as much sense.

Wonder what the Vegas odds are of how many women will be sitting in jail in Georgia for having a miscarriage in 10 years.

 

[monsterkitty]

Sure you do.
Your state now has the power to investigate you for a natural miscarriage. And we all know how fair governments are. How many women will be prosecuted because some man will decide that the woman did something to cause the miscarriage? This should terrify every woman.

There is not a single natural medical condition a man could serve a life sentence for through no fault of their own.

Might as well make prostate cancer a felony too. Makes about as much sense.

Wonder what the Vegas odds are of how many women will be sitting in jail in Georgia for having a miscarriage in 10 years.

I want to like your post, as in how you stated it. I am, however, horrified because it is so dead on. As someone whos in-laws asked her, "what did you do to kill this one" after my third miscarriage, I fear what is in store for those women who have a miscarriage.

 

[kimblebee]

I want to like your post, as in how you stated it. I am, however, horrified because it is so dead on. As someone whos in-laws asked her, "what did you do to kill this one" after my third miscarriage, I fear what is in store for those women who have a miscarriage.

Oh. Oh, that’s evil.

I’m sorry you have to deal with that.