Do You Consider Yourself a Feminist?

[Wishing on a star]

NOPE.
Not at all.
I think there is a lot of misguided confusion.

I am a 'Humanist'.
I believe in People Power.

 

[DLgal]

Got it, you aren't willing to list specifics.

I listed 5 specific areas. I don't live in any of the 12 states where these unequal laws are on the books, so I am not aware of the specifics, but just because I am not aware of them doesn't mean they don't exist and affect women every single day. YOU are the one who wants specifics, so why aren't YOU doing the research?

 

[Soldier's*Sweeties]

Yes. Though I don’t personally feel victimized as a woman, I know not every woman is privileged enough to say that.

 

[ashley0139]

Can you list some RIGHTS that men have that women do not?

I'm not a civil rights lawyer so I'm not sure of any specific laws, and I certainly haven't encountered any that limit my rights.

I'm a feminist for reasons like:
There are more CEOs named John than female CEOs (https://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/03/upshot/fewer-women-run-big-companies-than-men-named-john.html)

40% of films fail the Bechdel test (https://researchblog.duke.edu/2017/08/04/sizing-up-hollywoods-gender-gap/)

Men and women experience vastly different workplaces (http://graphics.wsj.com/how-men-and-women-see-the-workplace-differently/)

Women still take on the vast majority of emotional labor (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/14/smarter-living/stress-gap-women-men.html)

Women are perceived as talking much more often than they actually do (http://www.pbs.org/speak/speech/prejudice/women/)

Etc etc.

And all of this gets even worse when you consider women of color.

 

[ashley0139]

NOPE.
Not at all.
I think there is a lot of misguided confusion.

I am a 'Humanist'.
I believe in People Power.

I think you are the misguided one here. Feminism is about equality for women, not putting them above men.

 

[JaxDad]

And all of this gets even worse when you consider women of color.

And not just women of color in the West, but globally in all cultures...

 

[Hikergirl]

I listed 5 specific areas. I don't live in any of the 12 states where these unequal laws are on the books, so I am not aware of the specifics, but just because I am not aware of them doesn't mean they don't exist and affect women every single day. YOU are the one who wants specifics, so why aren't YOU doing the research?

Because as a woman I know I have the same rights as men. You are claiming I don’t. The onus is on you here to show what you claim I don’t have.

 

[Maggie Gallagher]

I am a Feminist. My husband is a Feminist. We both come from families that are made up of Feminists. I don't know anyone who isn't one. Perhaps that's because we are from New England. The Equal Rights Amendment was ratified in my state of Massachusetts on June 21, 1972. This should be old news, but amazingly, there are still some states in the dark ages. I'm surprised that there are women in this country who don't think that they deserve to have the same rights as men. Incredible.

Equality for ALL.

 

[Hikergirl]

I'm not a civil rights lawyer so I'm not sure of any specific laws, and I certainly haven't encountered any that limit my rights.

I'm a feminist for reasons like:
There are more CEOs named John than female CEOs (https://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/03/upshot/fewer-women-run-big-companies-than-men-named-john.html)

40% of films fail the Bechdel test (https://researchblog.duke.edu/2017/08/04/sizing-up-hollywoods-gender-gap/)

Men and women experience vastly different workplaces (http://graphics.wsj.com/how-men-and-women-see-the-workplace-differently/)

Women still take on the vast majority of emotional labor (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/14/smarter-living/stress-gap-women-men.html)

Women are perceived as talking much more often than they actually do (http://www.pbs.org/speak/speech/prejudice/women/)

Etc etc.

And all of this gets even worse when you consider women of color.

Thank you for posting some examples of why you are a feminist at the same time acknowledging you haven’t been limited in your rights.
I don’t disagree that there is inequality in society and the workplace, the reasons why for me aren’t as black and white as being a man or a woman. There are many factors to look at.
Like I posted previously, I can respect why women wear the feminist label. I just don’t feel a reason to be one myself.

 

[lifesavacation]

I'm not a civil rights lawyer so I'm not sure of any specific laws, and I certainly haven't encountered any that limit my rights.

I'm a feminist for reasons like:
There are more CEOs named John than female CEOs (https://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/03/upshot/fewer-women-run-big-companies-than-men-named-john.html)

40% of films fail the Bechdel test (https://researchblog.duke.edu/2017/08/04/sizing-up-hollywoods-gender-gap/)

Men and women experience vastly different workplaces (http://graphics.wsj.com/how-men-and-women-see-the-workplace-differently/)

Women still take on the vast majority of emotional labor (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/14/smarter-living/stress-gap-women-men.html)

Women are perceived as talking much more often than they actually do (http://www.pbs.org/speak/speech/prejudice/women/)

Etc etc.

And all of this gets even worse when you consider women of color.

The percentage of female CEOs in Fortune 500 companies is horrible. It's around 5%.

 

[ashley0139]

Thank you for posting some examples of why you are a feminist at the same time acknowledging you haven’t been limited in your rights.
I don’t disagree that there is inequality in society and the workplace, the reasons why for me aren’t as black and white as being a man or a woman. There are many factors to look at.
Like I posted previously, I can respect why women wear the feminist label. I just don’t feel a reason to be one myself.

I totally agree that there are more factors to look at than male or female, but since that's what the discussion is about that is what I included. I feel extremely strongly about how women are perceived and treated in society and the workplace, and also people of color, and people with disabilities, etc.

I think a lot of the problem is the connotation of the word "feminism" these days. While it has a positive one for me, clearly there are others who agree with the principles while not liking the label. I'm guessing this has to do with what media each individual person consumes.

 

[Summer2018]

I totally agree that there are more factors to look at than male or female, but since that's what the discussion is about that is what I included. I feel extremely strongly about how women are perceived and treated in society and the workplace, and also people of color, and people with disabilities, etc.

I think a lot of the problem is the connotation of the word "feminism" these days. While it has a positive one for me, clearly there are others who agree with the principles while not liking the label. I'm guessing this has to do with what media each individual person consumes.

I agree. My daughter was recently asked, "What kind of Feminist are you?" by a young man wanting to date her. After they got to know one another, they discovered that they were the same kind of Feminist. We are not militant man-haters. She knows that she deserves every right that a man takes for granted. She has been taught to respect herself and expect to be treated with dignity, fairness, and equality. It's simple. Equal rights for everybody.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

I totally agree that there are more factors to look at than male or female, but since that's what the discussion is about that is what I included. I feel extremely strongly about how women are perceived and treated in society and the workplace, and also people of color, and people with disabilities, etc.

I think a lot of the problem is the connotation of the word "feminism" these days. While it has a positive one for me, clearly there are others who agree with the principles while not liking the label. I'm guessing this has to do with what media each individual person consumes.

Oh, the irony!

Good grief, woman, practice what you preach!

Isn't a big part of feminism respecting eachothers' choices? Implying that women who have a different position than you are sheep is hypocritical.

Last time I checked, we are allowed to think freely - aren't we?

Further than that it is rather difficult to have much of a conversation or debate here.

 

[ashley0139]

Oh, the irony!

Good grief, woman, practice what you preach!

Isn't a big part of feminism respecting eachothers' choices? Implying that women who have a different position than you are sheep is hypocritical.

Last time I checked, we are allowed to think freely - aren't we?

Further than that it is rather difficult to have much of a conversation or debate here.

Are you kidding? That's literally the exact opposite of what I was implying.

Not sure why you are so quick to take offense.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Are you kidding? That's literally the exact opposite of what I was implying.

Not sure why you are so quick to take offense.

Not quick at all. I've been reading your posts all afternoon!

And to be honest, I agree with a lot of them. But that comment I find insulting.

 

[ashley0139]

Not quick at all. I've been reading your posts all afternoon!

And to be honest, I agree with a lot of them. But that comment I find insulting.

Okay, except you’re apparently insulted by something I didn’t say at all. And in fact was saying the OPPOSITE.

 

[llane]

Yes I am. I also don’t hate men.

Some are asking for laws that are different between male and female. Marriage laws, 17 for a boy, 16 for a girl in Arkansas; 17 for a boy, 15 for a girl in Mississippi. In North Carolina a girl can marry at 14 if pregnant.

Not equal and not better for the girl.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

I totally agree that there are more factors to look at than male or female, but since that's what the discussion is about that is what I included. I feel extremely strongly about how women are perceived and treated in society and the workplace, and also people of color, and people with disabilities, etc.

I think a lot of the problem is the connotation of the word "feminism" these days. While it has a positive one for me, clearly there are others who agree with the principles while not liking the label. I'm guessing this has to do with what media each individual person consumes.

What media one consumes? So certain media outlets are positive re: the word "feminism", but others are not? And these influence women's connotations of the word? Is that what you meant? If not, then please let me know what you did mean.

 

[donaldbuzz&minnie]

It always gets me when people say, "I'm not a feminist, I just believe that woman should have the same rights as men." That's feminism.

 

[Hikergirl]

Yes I am. I also don’t hate men.

Some are asking for laws that are different between male and female. Marriage laws, 17 for a boy, 16 for a girl in Arkansas; 17 for a boy, 15 for a girl in Mississippi. In North Carolina a girl can marry at 14 if pregnant.

Not equal and not better for the girl.

Well technically it's the male who doesn't have the same right here, they both can be married at age 17 however the girl can be married at 16 but the boy cannot.
FTR, laws don't have to make things better for one gender over the other if that is what you meant by the bolded
And besides, it isn't better for either male or female. 14,15,16 or 17 is too young for anyone to get married.