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Originally Posted by Tramp68
Statistics and probabilities. Statistics and probabilities need to be basedon fact,not some guesses pulled out of the air. All of the information in this debate Conversation is hypothetical. None of it is based on fact. Yet you continue to post numbers, estimates, percentages, and potentials as if they were fact, without any indication until now that said numbers are, in fact, made up. I can't prove that a smoker will still come to Disney any more than you can prove that they won't. Without any supporting information except the percent of US adult smokers, claims that only 0.0905% of Disney's business would be affected are as baseless as claims that 16,000 or even 1,600 people are avoiding Walt Disney World because smoking is allowed in restricted areas. All I can do is point to the research that many claimed that the restaurant business would be doomed if they banned smoking. Research and history showed that business went up. There's no comparison between a two hour meal and a fifteen hour theme park day. Granted, this is an enclosed place, but have public beaches suffered where smoking is banned? No. Has attendance at ball fields with children's athletics are performed gone down? No. There is plenty of precedent to show that the numbers will not go down. while i concede that business didn't suffer over a one or two hour meal, that's very different from a ten, twelve,or more hour theme park day. Will there be people who break the law? Of course. But does taking away a person's right to smoke make it OK for them to break the rules? No. When there are designated smoking areas, there's no law or rule to be broken.
Yes, I know that it is not the rule now, so, yes, they have the RIGHT to smoke. Unfortunate, but true. I just hope that I live long enough to see it change.
Privilege as granted by a private business and inaccordance with laws. Not a right.
Why is it that other than at BoG is there no alcohol at MK? Did people avoid MK for that reason? If so did it hurt attendance numbers before BoG? How about now since you still can't have any alcohol outside of the restaurant? Are people sneaking it in inside their drink bottles? Am I happy that there are no drunken idiots in the place where the smallest children are most likely to be like there tends to be at times in EPCOT?
People did and do bring liquor into Magic Kingdom. It's been admitted, discussed and argued here on the DISboards in the past. Go ask on the TPA&S board.
I truly in my heart, feel that if Walt were alive today and knew the dangers of smoking like we do today, he would be very against smoking in Disney, chain smoker or not... If Walt were alive, and if he were the sole owner and decision-maker, possibly. Not likely, but possible. But this is a corporate decision - and Walt Disney was a good businessman.
I never said they were staying away. I said they might be MORE INCLINED to choose Disney over another location if there was no smoking.
You indicated these people exist, without any support.