Disneyland Reopening Speculation Superthread

[ycsteves]

Just a heads up guys, Newsom will be live today at noon. He will be talking about Covid updates.

 

[ycsteves]

Effective immediately. Same thing, except now this applies to ALL counties, not just a few on the “list”. Screenshot attached.

 

[EmJ]

Newsome is speaking now. Relevant highlights:

• All counties in the state are required to close all indoor operations; he specifically mentioned indoor dining, wineries, bars, movie theaters, family entertainment centers, zoos (aren't these mostly outside?) and museums.
• All counties on the county monitoring list are also required to close indoor fitness centers, places of worship, personal care (salons, barbershops), offices in noncritical sectors, and malls.
• Four additional counties have been added to the watch list (Placer, Sonoma, Sutter, and Yuba), for a total of 30 counties.
• He encourages watching the 7-day average in cases rather than daily case counts in order to gauge how the state is performing. The 7-day average is trending upwards.
• The positivity rate has "settled" around 7.4%. [Editorial note: "Settled" sounds like stabilization, no? Here's hoping.]
• Hospitalizations lag positive cases and are starting to increase. Hospitalizations are up 28% over the past two weeks, but that is better than the previous two weeks' 50%, and the rate of increased hospitalizations is starting to slow. But, ICU admissions are increasing. But, only 16% of the state's ICU capacity is being utilized and there are 10,000+ ventilators available in the aggregate, those some counties are short. [Another editorial note: Seems like kind of a mixed bag here.]
• Verbatim: "Until there is a vaccine or effective therapy, we will be mitigating the spread of COVID-19 for the long-term. Californians must adapt to new behaviors if we are to slow the spread."

He's encouraging masks, handwashing, and physical distancing now, so I think we are done with the big announcements.

 

[midnight star]

Newsome is speaking now. Relevant highlights:

• All counties in the state required to close all indoor operations; specifically mentioned indoor dining, wineries, bars, movie theaters, family entertainment centers, zoos (aren't these mostly outside?) and museums.
• All counties on the county monitoring list are also required to close indoor fitness centers, places of worship, personal care (salons, barbershops), offices in noncritical sectors, and malls.
• Four additional counties added to the watch list (Placer, Sonoma, Sutter, and Yuba).
• He encourages watching the 7-day average in cases rather than daily case counts in order to gauge how the state is performing. The 7-day average is trending upwards.
• The positivity rate has "settled" around 7.4%. [Editorial note: "Settled" sounds like stabilization, no? Here's hoping.]
• Hospitalizations lag positive cases and are starting to increase. Hospitalizations are up 28% over the past two week, but that is better than the previous two week's 50%, and the rate of increased hospitalizations is starting to slow. But, ICU admissions are increasing. But, only 16% of the state's ICU capacity is being utilized and there are 10,000+ ventilators available in the aggregate, those some counties are short. [Another editorial note: Seems like kind of a mixed bag here.]

I'll edit to update additional highlights.

So does this mean DTD has to close???!

 

[mentos]

So does this mean DTD has to close???!

No, since it's an outdoor mall and all the dining is outdoors/carry out only.

 

[EmJ]

So does this mean DTD has to close???!

Yeeesh, I did not immediately put two and two together on that. It sounds like all indoor dining at DTD will have to close if there is any, and possibly indoor shopping if Orange on the county watch list. He wasn't really clear about that though. He said "malls". A traditional mall to me is an entirely enclosed building with shops. Not an outdoor shopping area.

 

[Snap Crackle Pop]

So does this mean DTD has to close???!

it should have never opened. But DtD is an outdoor mall not an indoor one,so it doesn’t have to close

 

[EmJ]

No, since it's an outdoor mall and all the dining is outdoors/carry out only.

Nevermind, listen to mentos I don't know enough about DTD's setup.

 

[midnight star]

No, since it's an outdoor mall and all the dining is outdoors/carry out only.

Whew!! But wait, can you still shop inside the stores?!

 

[mrsw94]

Here's the State of California Covid site. It gives good information about what is and isn't currently allowed to operate. Orange County IS on a watch list, so it has a bigger list of things not allowed to open.

https://covid19.ca.gov/roadmap-counties/

 

[EmJ]

Whew!! But wait, can you still shop inside the stores?!

We need a definition of "malls". But he didn't mention anything like Target has to close, or curbside delivery for retail, or anything like that. So I'd think DTD shops are not a "mall" and are still okay.

 

[mentos]

We need a definition of "malls". But he didn't mention anything like Target has to close, or curbside delivery for retail, or anything like that. So I'd think DTD shops are not a "mall" and are still okay.

Were any of the restaurants allowing indoor dining? I haven't kept track of OC specifically, I want to say they were allowing indoor dining, but would not be allowed anymore.

 

[midnight star]

Were any of the restaurants allowing indoor dining? I haven't kept track of OC specifically, I want to say they were allowing indoor dining, but would not be allowed anymore.

There were only doing outdoor dining.

 

[midnight star]

We need a definition of "malls". But he didn't mention anything like Target has to close, or curbside delivery for retail, or anything like that. So I'd think DTD shops are not a "mall" and are still okay.

Target was open during the hard lockdown. I think it falls under grocery so it doesn't have to close.

 

[mentos]

Target was open during the hard lockdown. I think it falls under grocery so it doesn't have to close.

I don't see anything in the Newsom announcement from today that discusses indoor retail EXCEPT the thing about malls in the affected counties.

 

[TikiTikiFan]

Well, dang. I don’t see a Disneyland reopening happening anytime soon then...

 

[mentos]

Well, dang. I don’t see a Disneyland reopening happening anytime soon then...

Between more restrictions being placed, and LA/SD announcing no reopening of schools this fall... Disneyland 2021 might actually be a reality.

I'm still bullish on a fall reopening, though. Less so, today.

 

[mouschievous]

Our September trip is canceled The rest of our payment for our DVC rental is due July 25. I'm sitting here debating if we should cancel now and be out the initial payment but not lose the rest, or go ahead and pay it and hope that they're still closed come September so that we can reschedule for free. If we gamble and they're open we lose the whole rental amount . Anyone want to speculate on when they'll be opening to help me decide?

 

[EmJ]

Between more restrictions being placed, and LA/SD announcing no reopening of schools this fall... Disneyland 2021 might actually be a reality.

I'm still bullish on a fall reopening, though. Less so, today.

I was just thinking this....

 

[midnight star]

Remember how everyone was arguing about that one prediction for parks to reopening in 2021? Maybe they were right (well partially right WDW is open already)