Alert - Mexico Respiratory Illness * Swine Flu Discussion *

of topic on DCL, but on topic on Swine Flu, am I worried about the swine flu? Sure a little. Will it stop me from doing normal things? No

If it stopped me I sure wouldn't be going to Bamboozle this weekend and being around a whole lot of people from NJ, others states, europe, etc. The news is making a bigger deal out of this then it really is.
 
In some ways, our public officials may be (inadvertently) helping flame the panic:

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090430/ap_on_he_me/med_swine_flu

"Vice President Joe Biden...Biden also said on NBC's "Today" show that he is advising his own family to stay off commercial airlines and even subways because of swine flu. If one person sneezes on a confined aircraft, he said, "it goes all the way through the aircraft."
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So do people look at that and say "you know, if the VP is telling his own family to avoid air travel, maybe I should too." I don't know what the right answer is.


I saw that interview this morning and all I could picture was the public relations people moaning in unison as they started planning how to "fix" the reprocussions of that statement. :sad2:
 
Sebelius, Napolitano to Host Webcast on H1N1 Flu, Answers Questions from the American People

Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius and Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano will host a Webcast to answer questions from the American people regarding the H1N1 flu on Thursday at 1:00 PM ET.

Sebelius and Napolitano will be joined by Acting Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Dr. Rich Besser.


Here is the link for the webcast:

http://www.cdc.gov/swineflu/webcast.htm

Kat
 
In some ways, our public officials may be (inadvertently) helping flame the panic:

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090430/ap_on_he_me/med_swine_flu

"Vice President Joe Biden...Biden also said on NBC's "Today" show that he is advising his own family to stay off commercial airlines and even subways because of swine flu. If one person sneezes on a confined aircraft, he said, "it goes all the way through the aircraft."
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So do people look at that and say "you know, if the VP is telling his own family to avoid air travel, maybe I should too." I don't know what the right answer is.


I had a friend come back from the last 7-night western, and he had done an excursion on Coz (Talum ruins)...he said that had he known about the Swine Flu while he was there, he would have opted not to participate in his Coz excursion.


As far as the "deadly" aspect of the new strain, there is this from the story:

"...Jose Cordova, the Mexican health secretary, said getting proper treatment within 48 hours of falling ill "is fundamental for getting the best results" and suggested people can survive the virus if it is quickly diagnosed and treated.

But it was neither caught quickly nor treated properly in the early days in Mexico, which lacked the capacity to identify the virus, and whose health care system has become the target of widespread anger and distrust. In case after case, patients have complained of being misdiagnosed, turned away by doctors and denied access to drugs..."

Dh is getting really nervous about us going away for the cruise due to the swine flu, especially since we'll be flying down and doing 2 days at WDW before hand. I keep telling him we'll jst have to wait and see what happens til then...if need be we will try and get SW credit for our tix. and drive down(which would be pure torture because my kids hate any car ride over 3 hours) He's afraid that if him and I catch it and get sick while on vacation we will have no one to care for our 3 kids!!! That being said my little guy has been sick for the past 8 weeks with various things and is now finally healthy!
Also I'm sooooo glad we bought trip insurance the same day we booked our cruise in case we need to use it.
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God's blessings to all that are affected!

Just wanted to say thanks to everyone for your support for the group of us who leave May 2 on the Magic.

Continued prayers and pixie dust to everyone. Just the fact that we are blessed to be on the board talking about upcoming trips etc means that we are better off then so many in our communities and the world at this current state.

May everyone continue to have positive attitudes and blessings!

Hugs!
Lisa
 
In some ways, our public officials may be (inadvertently) helping flame the panic:

---
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090430/ap_on_he_me/med_swine_flu

"Vice President Joe Biden...Biden also said on NBC's "Today" show that he is advising his own family to stay off commercial airlines and even subways because of swine flu. If one person sneezes on a confined aircraft, he said, "it goes all the way through the aircraft."
---


So do people look at that and say "you know, if the VP is telling his own family to avoid air travel, maybe I should too." I don't know what the right answer is.


I had a friend come back from the last 7-night western, and he had done an excursion on Coz (Talum ruins)...he said that had he known about the Swine Flu while he was there, he would have opted not to participate in his Coz excursion.


As far as the "deadly" aspect of the new strain, there is this from the story:

"...Jose Cordova, the Mexican health secretary, said getting proper treatment within 48 hours of falling ill "is fundamental for getting the best results" and suggested people can survive the virus if it is quickly diagnosed and treated.

But it was neither caught quickly nor treated properly in the early days in Mexico, which lacked the capacity to identify the virus, and whose health care system has become the target of widespread anger and distrust. In case after case, patients have complained of being misdiagnosed, turned away by doctors and denied access to drugs..."

well that is so sad how that went down in mexico- and I think that's exactly why this has blown out of proportion. If this had started in the US, people got sick but no one died (as no one has here as of yet except a child that came from Mexico to Texas to receive medical care) -it would just be another strain of the virus/flu. Period. But no, it started in mexico- people didn't receive timely or proper medical care for a variety of reasons- some died and whamo- tons of people freak right out.
*sigh*


I think being cautious is always a good thing against any potential virus, especially when traveling abroad, but do agree there is definitely over sensationalizing going on by the bigger media outlets promoting panic. I mean considering on average there is about 36000 deaths a year from the normal flu strain that would mean since Monday over 300 deaths would have occured on average, funny how I didn't hear about any of those on the news. Yet we get 24 hour coverage of far few deaths in that span related to this new strain. I just find it silly and can't believe our media calls themselves responsible outlets for information. I actually heard one news program call this issue a "threat to humanity"....really?!? I think an asteroid heading directly towards earth is a threat to humanity....then they went on to deem this a "disease"....ALS is a disease...this is a virus. I mean come on people a little fact checking can't hurt.

Well needless to say I will be cruising on the W.Carib in a few weeks myself and trust the fact that Disney will do its best to calm the panic and keep us all healthy...or as healthy as they could on any cruise that sails each week.

For those cruising this week, stay calm and just have fun. You paid tons of money for a great vacation and I guarentee you will get one so don't lose that in your mind....just try to tune out the mass hysteria and relax and tell us all about the great time you had when you get back and make us all look forward to our upcoming vacations, no matter where that may be.

I agree and we're still going- to WDW for a week and then on the cruise. We can get sick here just as easily as we can get sick there. Granted I'd rather not get sick while on vacation -but what happens happens no matter where we are. There haven't been any "uncomfirmed or confirmed" cases coming out of the WDW area or on the cruise- and there HAVE been some "uncomfirmed" cases in our area as well as the toddler died in our state not THAT far from us (couple of hours drive) -so technically we're at more risk where we are now. I just hope this virus doesn't cost more lives and we can nip it in the bud and push it back where it belongs- as just another flu strain and nothing more.
 
Dh is getting really nervous about us going away for the cruise due to the swine flu, especially since we'll be flying down and doing 2 days at WDW before hand. I keep telling him we'll jst have to wait and see what happens til then...if need be we will try and get SW credit for our tix. and drive down(which would be pure torture because my kids hate any car ride over 3 hours) He's afraid that if him and I catch it and get sick while on vacation we will have no one to care for our 3 kids!!! That being said my little guy has been sick for the past 8 weeks with various things and is now finally healthy!
Also I'm sooooo glad we bought trip insurance the same day we booked our cruise in case we need to use it.
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I am in a very similar situation....flying down on SW, 2 days in WDW, cruise, and a hubby that is very worried. However, my hubby is not going. This is a girls trip with my Mom, my daughters and me and he is very worried about sending us off. As many have said, and what I am telling him, is that we just have to take precautions. I think we are probably just as exposed when we go to a baseball game, etc. DCL does a great job with wipes at all food stations and making kids wash their hands upon entering the kids club. I am taking wipes with me in WDW, which I have done in the past to help with the messy Turkey Legs, but will probably use them a little more often just as a preventive measure.

We have had this B2B cruise in the Walt booked for 1 1/2 years and were blessed enough to still be able to go with this economy. We may be a little more focused on keeping our hands clean, but we are still going to have a great time and remember how fortunate we are to be on the cruise! I hope it works out that all of us stay healthy and enjoy our trips! :)
 
Dh is getting really nervous about us going away for the cruise due to the swine flu, especially since we'll be flying down and doing 2 days at WDW before hand. I keep telling him we'll jst have to wait and see what happens til then...if need be we will try and get SW credit for our tix. and drive down(which would be pure torture because my kids hate any car ride over 3 hours) He's afraid that if him and I catch it and get sick while on vacation we will have no one to care for our 3 kids!!! That being said my little guy has been sick for the past 8 weeks with various things and is now finally healthy!
Also I'm sooooo glad we bought trip insurance the same day we booked our cruise in case we need to use it.
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I am in a very similar situation....flying down on SW, 2 days in WDW, cruise, and a hubby that is very worried. However, my hubby is not going. This is a girls trip with my Mom, my daughters and me and he is very worried about sending us off. As many have said, and what I am telling him, is that we just have to take precautions. I think we are probably just as exposed when we go to a baseball game, etc. DCL does a great job with wipes at all food stations and making kids wash their hands upon entering the kids club. I am taking wipes with me in WDW, which I have done in the past to help with the messy Turkey Legs, but will probably use them a little more often just as a preventive measure.

We have had this B2B cruise in the Walt booked for 1 1/2 years and were blessed enough to still be able to go with this economy. We may be a little more focused on keeping our hands clean, but we are still going to have a great time and remember how fortunate we are to be on the cruise! I hope it works out that all of us stay healthy and enjoy our trips! :)

My advice is to if you fly wear a mask and have your kids wear mask. You can get them at a drug store,home depot and lowes have them for painting or at a medical supply store. I wouldnt wear them all over the place WDW, Or while on DCL. But for the plane ride only. take the alchol gel with you and tell your kids to not touch anything... that it is important and I always travel with the single pouch wet wipes to wipe any thing down. I have friends that are flying today and tomorrow and they are doing the same thing. They cant prevent flying so are wearing a mask for the flight only. Please dont flame me just trying to give these two familes an option to not worry or cancel flights due to this.
 
I was actually seriously considering the masks ... we fly a week from Saturday ... and I am with two kids and my husband. I didn't want to look like crazy freaks on the plane but if others are ... hmmmmmm.

We too are doing a few days at WDW before going on the Wonder.

kat
 
My advice is to if you fly wear a mask and have your kids wear mask. You can get them at a drug store,home depot and lowes have them for painting or at a medical supply store. I wouldnt wear them all over the place WDW, Or while on DCL. But for the plane ride only. take the alchol gel with you and tell your kids to not touch anything that it is important and I always travel with the single pouch wet wipes to wipe any thing down. I have friends that are flying today and tomorrow and they are doing the same thing. They cant prevent flying so are wearing a mask for the flight only. Please dont flame me just trying to give these two familes and option to not worry or cancel flights due to this.
That might work for me, dh and my older 2 but there is no way my almost 2 y.o. will let me put one on him!!!:confused3
 
That might work for me, dh and my older 2 but there is no way my almost 2 y.o. will let me put one on him!!!:confused3

If it were me I would make my child wear it. Decorate it with his/her favorite stickers if they are young and if they see others wearing it as well as the parents then maybe they wont mess with it too much.
 
I was actually seriously considering the masks ... we fly a week from Saturday ... and I am with two kids and my husband. I didn't want to look like crazy freaks on the plane but if others are ... hmmmmmm.

We too are doing a few days at WDW before going on the Wonder.

kat

Don't worry about what you look like. Rather be safe than sorry. Also it is just for the plane ride. I'm sure you will look fine. I work in surgery so I wear them everyday so no worries for me. and i dont care what people think about me. You are only going to be with those people for the plane ride they wont see you everyday of your trip and be like those are the people who wore mask.:eek:

No worries be happy.
 
I am in a very similar situation....flying down on SW, 2 days in WDW, cruise, and a hubby that is very worried.

I'm seeing more and more of stories like this:

Swine flu cases pass 100 but still mild

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/med_swine_flu_us

"...At a congressional hearing, Dr. Anne Schuchat of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention sought to strike a balance: No one knows what the never-before-seen virus ultimately will do, but so far in most U.S. cases people are recovering without even needing a doctor's care. The big message is to try not to spread infection..."
 
I was speaking to a health care professional and they suggested if we wanted to get masks for flying that we look for the N95 masks. They said it should have "NIOSH N95" on the package.
 
I was speaking to a health professional and they suggested if we wanted to get masks for flying that we look for the N95 masks. They said it should have "NIOSH N95" on the package.

yes those are the ones we wear at work. They are way snug and are almost uncomfortable. We wear those if a pt has Tb or any other isolation issues. For those masks you would need to get them at a medical supply store.
 
yes those are the ones we wear at work. They are way snug and are almost uncomfortable. We wear those if a pt has Tb or any other isolation issues. For those masks you would need to get them at a medical supply store.

Do you know if the N95 come in kid sizes? I have a 2 yr old and an infant...

By the way..I'm in Katy as well. ;)
 
Do you know if the N95 come in kid sizes? I have a 2 yr old and an infant...

By the way..I'm in Katy as well. ;)

I dont think they have kid sizes but they come in small med and large.... and they do fit snug. When are you traveling? I can check for you.
 

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