News Round Up 2019

[rteetz]

Streetmosphere shows are easiest to cut because they don’t directly profit from them. People do not go to the parks for them, they go to them while already in the parks. While they are crucial to the overall experience, they just do no draw guests directly. People are not flying 1000 miles to see a 5 minute Muppet skit or the Citizens of Hollywood, but they may schedule parts of their day around it while there. It’s a bonus on the trip, not a reason for the trip.

I’m more or less thinking of locals making a trip to see new entertainment.

 

[KMWoolley]

well that is a (made up) holiday for Kashyyyk ...but yeah, would be something similar but for Batuu - something celebrating the Ancients or something (apparently they have already made up "Harvest Festival" as one example)

Dude, the entire Star Wars concept is "made up"

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Dude, the entire Star Wars concept is "made up"

first of all, how dare you!

and of course - which is why I said they could make whatever they want work - but they do seem to try to spin this as it is it's own universe and needs to keep within that

 

[JaxDad]

Dude, the entire Star Wars concept is "made up"

Oh man, that will be disturbing to many on this forum. Please don't tell them that the whole Marvel universe thing is made up too.

 

[OSUZorba]

Agree. But it's not what makes someone who is NOT booking a trip today decide to book one. That's my point. Apples and oranges.

It might make someone who is there NOW book or not Book another trip. Atmosphere is a non-tangible. It makes people feel good about the parks, without them consciously saying "Boy I would come to WDW again because the citizens of Hollywood." One of the memories that really sticks out to me is from 2016 when I saw a storm trooper "harassing" someone, while I was waiting on my wife to change a Diaper. Those experiences roll up into good memories and thoughts and make me want to go back. We did actually plan extra time at AK this last trip for the Chipmunk dance party.

 

[SaintsManiac]

Look I get everyone being upset about the cuts to entertainment. It just doesn't make or break a trip for us. Now if they cut the Dapper Dans that would be a different story.

 

[SG131]

I’m more or less thinking of locals making a trip to see new entertainment.

Or out of state passholders that are now paying almost $300 more and are thinking how many trips do I really need in a year at this price. The fact that there is so much to see and do at disney is why it is so repeatable for me, but the raising prices coupled with all these cuts to quality does impact my decision to go as frequently.

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

Doesn’t mean they should cut without additions though. This is a routine thing for them every September but it doesn’t need to be. They aren’t losing money. New offerings help bring people in. They aren’t adding any new offerings right now to make up for these cuts. For a company that seems worried about the loss of attendance they don’t seem to be acting to bring people in with any sort of urgency.

The royal magic makers or whatever they were called may not bring people in but a larger show like the muppets certainly attracts crowds especially when it’s on the times guide. That’s why the muppets cut is so strange to me. It’s a draw for people. Every time I saw it, people were there watching it.

This is a repeat of an (at least) annual conversation now. And things always get added back or new offerings added. Many of the things "cut" now were announced as being limited from the beginning. And while people gather for Muppets, I still maintain that it is certainly not what makes people buy a ticket.

My point stands -- tinkering around the edges of roaming/periodic entertainment on a temporary basis will not have appreciable -- or even measurable -- impact on attendance IMO. Haven't heard anyone say anything to the contrary, but rather repeat some version of "it stinks that they ever cut entertainment". Different point, and one I at least partially agree with.

 

[rteetz]

Or out of state passholders that are now paying almost $300 more and are thinking how many trips do I really need in a year at this price. The fact that there is so much to see and do at disney is why it is so repeatable for me, but the raising prices coupled with all these cuts to quality does impact my decision to go as frequently.

Yep. Also look at AP magnets. People go nuts for those. Disney will bring those out just to drive attendance. The AK/Simba one was a perfect example of that. It was a limited time right around the opening of SWGE in order to make people go to AK instead.

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

It might make someone who is there NOW book or not Book another trip.

I don't buy this. JMO.

I'll move along now!

 

[rteetz]

And while people gather for Muppets, I still maintain that it is certainly not what makes people buy a ticket.

My point stands -- tinkering around the edges of roaming/periodic entertainment on a temporary basis will not have appreciable -- or even measurable -- impact on attendance IMO. Haven't heard anyone say anything to the contrary, but rather repeat some version of "it stinks that they ever cut entertainment". Different point, and one I at least partially agree with.

Not muppets specifically but plenty of people have said on the boards and elsewhere that entertainment and the little things help make Disney what it is and that is certainly true. One of the big complaints of SWGE is the lack of entertainment.

They do no always add entertainment back in areas that it is cut. Like @TheMaxRebo mentioned earlier Frontierland used to be a big place for entertainment and it doesn't have as much of it anymore. I am okay with rotation and changing but its the cuts with nothing to replace it that bother me. I don't see Disney replacing the Muppets with anything new in Liberty Square at least not anytime soon.

 

[rteetz]

News

https://blogmickey.com/2019/09/mick...8LYBcOwJE4ZxhJlzBTy623DFEKJ_VAQVYKGem7w8Fys6c

 

[rteetz]

News

Celebrated ABC News Journalist Cokie Roberts Passes Away at 75

 

[HuskieJohn]

I’m more or less thinking of locals making a trip to see new entertainment.

I think its anyone who is coming back after their first visit (like me). This time around I am definitely more interested in the non-ride things we missed in 2015 and any new offerings on top of hitting our favorites.

 

[siren0119]

Oh man, that will be disturbing to many on this forum. Please don't tell them that the whole Marvel universe thing is made up too.

Man, next thing you're going to tell me is that the Mickey and Minnie aren't really giant mice in clothes....or the princesses aren't real princesses.

 

[DizFanFamily]

Man, next thing you're going to tell me is that the Mickey and Minnie aren't really giant mice in clothes....or the princesses aren't real princesses.

It is only magic when you believe. otherwise it is just illusions

 

[Firebird060]

I want them to bring back Push the talking trash can. Not that it will happen but hey, thats what I want. I would even make a special trip just to see Push

 

[MissGina5]

yeah, wanting to see it at night seems to be a common comment I am seeing. Tomorrowland, more than all the other lands, "feels" different at night, so hopefully this only adds to this

I really liked the old sign I thought it did retro future well but I am excited to see it lit at night

 

[MissGina5]

Not certain. But I'd bet on it if I was an exec. Can't imagine what the customer looks like who would be moved to book a trip today because of NEW roaming entertainment announced who would REFUSE to book that same trip otherwise. I'd bet that number would be vanishingly small. JMO.

Now I think the parks experience can suffer some -- more for some customers than for others -- if the cuts were very deep for very long. They aren't. So I cannot get worked up over it.

If you consider locals you turn up with more people

 

[Tiki Birdland]

Some more photos

Something's missing... Wish it still had the gizmos inside it.