Floridaman999
Livin' the life
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- Dec 29, 2017
Seems to be all kinds of agreement among everyone here. Good to see.
There is free and open access to birth control. Go down to the health department and they will give you all you want. All of those things--medical care, education and child care are given to women below a certain income level. The only thing on your list is maybe sex education.
I have read the articles about the proposed law in Ohio. First off, the representative that proposed this bill is an idiot and is wanting things that aren't possible like re-implanting the embryo from an ectopic pregnancy. And he clearly doesn't understand how birth control works. Like at all. And I hope the voters remember all this when he is up for reelection. BUT, he isn't trying to ban birth control. He is trying to make it so insurance won't pay for it. Still stupid but not the same as banning it.
Banning birth control is outrageous. I cannot imagine what they think this will accomplish...many many more unwanted pregnancies....many many more unwanted children in the foster care system. Oh yeah, that's just brilliant.I don't like abortion. I like to think I'd never have one myself. However, banning abortion doesn't actually do much to stop abortions, it just makes them less safe. The best way to reduce abortions is to have free and open access to birth control, comprehensive sex education, and social supports in place that make it easier for a woman to raise a child (free/inexpensive medical care/education/child care/etc.).
Instead we have Ohio trying to ban birth control along with abortion, which would also harm women who aren't even using birth control for contraception (like myself).
There is free and open access to birth control. Go down to the health department and they will give you all you want. All of those things--medical care, education and child care are given to women below a certain income level. The only thing on your list is maybe sex education.
I have read the articles about the proposed law in Ohio. First off, the representative that proposed this bill is an idiot and is wanting things that aren't possible like re-implanting the embryo from an ectopic pregnancy. And he clearly doesn't understand how birth control works. Like at all. And I hope the voters remember all this when he is up for reelection. BUT, he isn't trying to ban birth control. He is trying to make it so insurance won't pay for it. Still stupid but not the same as banning it.
Many have asked on this thread why a woman wouldn't consider themselves a feminist. If you really want to know-from my experiences, truthfully-I don't feel welcome. I absolutely agree that women and men should both be treated with respect and have equal rights. My issue with "modern day" feminism is that I have been insulted and told what to do more by self proclaimed feminists than I ever have by any man. I have been told (to my face) that I "wasted my life and my education," and "that I set women back" by choosing to be a stay at home mom. In addition, I get the general feeling from the media (not the most reliable source, I know) that a woman must vote a certain way and have certain views on abortion to be a "real feminist." If I am being perfectly honest, it doesn't feel like the modern day definition of feminist welcomes each woman's choice but rather only certain choices.
I hope I haven't offended anyone. Just my thoughts. I do know that those views whom I have negatively personally experienced are more of the "radical" versions. But those "radical" views are amongst the most loudly and proudly expressed. It is hard to hear the less vocal.
I AGREE....
at this time, so-called FEMINISM is all about teling woman what they should be, think, believe, fight for.
Just like the term reverse prejudice, so called progressive can be the opposite, anything but.
If insurance won't pay for it, it's an effective ban. And, NO not every health department hands out birth control for "free" to just anyone. Nice in theory. Not true in practice.
How about legislators just stay the heck out of women's reproductive rights, period? Why can't we leave it to them and their doctors to figure out? Wouldn't that be nice? Most male legislators are idiots when it comes to how women's bodies ACTUALLY work. Witness all the (stupid) comments about "women can't become pregnant from rape." Right. Yup. That makes sense.
And, I completely respect other people's decisions about what to do with their pregnancies. Maybe, just maybe, other people should respect other people's decisions too. I'd NEVER force someone to have an abortion. Why are pregnant, raped teens being "forced" to carry pregnancies they do not want and did not ask for in any way?
Finally, I'll just note that what really, really irritates me is that this will become an economic issue. Wealthy and upper middle class women will STILL be able to get all the abortions they want because they will be able to travel to states where abortion will still be legal, safe and available. So, despite any Supreme Court decision or any specific state's decision, abortions are going to happen. It's just that poor women and younger teenagers without the means to travel independently will not have that choice. (Just in case people don't know, the ONLY thing the Supreme Court can do, assuming it strikes down Roe v. Wade at some point is to declare that there is no FEDERAL right to reproductive freedom....and states will be able to make the decision for what happens in THEIR state....so southern, conservative states may effectively prohibit abortion to poor women in their states, but their wealthy residents will only need to hop on a plane to California, Washington, New York, or at least 17 other states).
That portion of the Georgia law is CLEARLY unconstitutional. This has been tested before. One state CANNOT dictate what it's residents can do in another state. For example, marijuana is illegal in Minnesota. But, I can go to Colorado and smoke it nonstop for as long as I'm there as long as I do not bring any back. I can then return to Minnesota, walk up to the nearest police officer, tell him I was smoking marijuana for the last week in Colorado and s/he can do absolutely nothing. Nada. Zip.Except, as I understand it, the Georgia law will allow for the prosecution of anyone who travels out of state to receive that type of care, as well as any “accomplice” who assists in getting her there.
I’m in the process of relocating to Georgia. I can’t wait to get down there and start voting.
WOW, I could not question or DISLIKE post #181 above any more strongly.
I can never get onboard with any VICTIM mentality.
I am a woman.
I am a small and very personally limited woman.
I have, more than not, been on the short end of the stick.
Do I think that just because I, personally, am not able to achieve everything that any other person can achieve, that this is inherently evil, or that I am, and will forever be a victim.
The feeling that one should always be 'entitled' or one is a victim, is problematic.
This is nothing less than reverse prejudice.
I, personally, will not go there.
Oops, sorry! It's totally worth bringing up time and again.
Feminism isn't limited to the US. Feminists are also working to get/keep girls in school throughout the world, improve period related health and access to products (as well as trying to remove the stigma associated with periods in some areas), and any number of other things to improve women's lives throughout the world. But there is still work that needs to be done here, too.
I AGREE....
at this time, so-called FEMINISM is all about teling woman what they should be, think, believe, fight for.
Just like the term reverse prejudice, so called progressive can be the opposite, anything but.
If insurance won't pay for it, it's an effective ban. And, NO not every health department hands out birth control for "free" to just anyone. Nice in theory. Not true in practice.
How about legislators just stay the heck out of women's reproductive rights, period? Why can't we leave it to them and their doctors to figure out? Wouldn't that be nice? Most male legislators are idiots when it comes to how women's bodies ACTUALLY work. Witness all the (stupid) comments about "women can't become pregnant from rape." Right. Yup. That makes sense.
And, I completely respect other people's decisions about what to do with their pregnancies. Maybe, just maybe, other people should respect other people's decisions too. I'd NEVER force someone to have an abortion. Why are pregnant, raped teens being "forced" to carry pregnancies they do not want and did not ask for in any way?
Finally, I'll just note that what really, really irritates me is that this will become an economic issue. Wealthy and upper middle class women will STILL be able to get all the abortions they want because they will be able to travel to states where abortion will still be legal, safe and available. So, despite any Supreme Court decision or any specific state's decision, abortions are going to happen. It's just that poor women and younger teenagers without the means to travel independently will not have that choice. (Just in case people don't know, the ONLY thing the Supreme Court can do, assuming it strikes down Roe v. Wade at some point is to declare that there is no FEDERAL right to reproductive freedom....and states will be able to make the decision for what happens in THEIR state....so southern, conservative states may effectively prohibit abortion to poor women in their states, but their wealthy residents will only need to hop on a plane to California, Washington, New York, or at least 17 other states).
Like I said the guy with the birth control bill is an idiot and it should be shot down and hopefully will.
Ok, every health dept HERE does. As do other semi-free clinics.
My honest belief is that rape should be an exception in every law. Sadly in some it’s not. That much I would speak up for. But I will also always speak up for the unborn. Always.
My honest belief is that rape should be an exception in every law. Sadly in some it’s not. That much I would speak up for. But I will also always speak up for the unborn. Always.
See, that's something that confuses me... the unborn baby conceived via rape is just as innocent as the one conceived via an irresponsible one night stand and the one conceived because the birth control failed. So if it is really about the sanctity of life, aren't they all equally worthy of protection?
See, that's something that confuses me... the unborn baby conceived via rape is just as innocent as the one conceived via an irresponsible one night stand and the one conceived because the birth control failed. So if it is really about the sanctity of life, aren't they all equally worthy of protection?
Equal. Not better. Just equal.
How about creating adaptable seat belts, so that one version does fit all. Why should I - who on average earn $.80 for every dollar a man earns - have to pay extra to be safe and comfortable?And they make products to fix the problem with seat belts. Its not that big of a deal and just not discrimination. The problem isn't that you are a woman, its that you are smaller than the design. If they make them fit the smaller size of most women, how will the belt then fit a larger man?