George Zimmerman is in police custody

[djm99]

I see it now, thanks. I have used headphones for my phone, since I don't have a blue tooth. I typically use them to listen to music though. I guess they would work for calls as well.

Your bluetooth works for music? Which ones are those I'd love to have those.

 

[TLSnell1981]

. There was no DNA from Zimmerman found on Martin's hands or sleeves.

I guess, GZ broke his own nose, gave himself two black eyes and beat his head on the concrete?

Is there a reason you spell Trayvon with an e (Treyvon)? I'm not asking to be the spelling monitor or to be snarky. I'm curious as to if it has any significance.

No significance, just a misspelling. I know, two kids, who are Trey.

No, that counts, and I'm sorry that you went through that. I know I cannot begin to imagine what it would be like.

To be fair to his parents, even if you don't think this will help them, can you really begrudge them or blame them for wanting to have answers?

I don't begrudge answers, but they aren't always, what you want to hear. Sometimes, everything goes wrong and things happen... Nothing will bring their child back and I doubt, destroying GZ will make them feel better.

 

[chobie]

I actually agree, his parents do deserve answers and I don't blame them in that respect. Their son is dead and people all around them are telling them it's because he was racially profiled and the man who took his life is a racist. That's a hard pill for any parent to swallow I'd imagine.

Well, I do think race played a part in this. How much, I don't know.

 

[chobie]

I guess, GZ broke his own nose, gave himself two black eyes and beat his head on the concrete?

No significance, just a misspelling. I know, two kids, who are Trey.

I don't begrudge answers, but they aren't always, what you want to hear. Sometimes, everything goes wrong and things happen... Nothing will bring their child back and I doubt, destroying GZ will make them feel better.

The black eyes probably came from the broken nose -- the eyes usually blacken when the nose is injured. The photos of him that night at the police station show no swelling around the eyes. Two little scratches on the back of his head do not show a head being bashed into the pavement, IMO, and the broken nose, yep TM probably did that, but that may well have been self-defense on TM's part.

If GZ did unlawfully kill their child then maybe seeing him brought to justice would make them feel better. Who knows?

 

[torinsmom]

Your bluetooth works for music? Which ones are those I'd love to have those.

Not a bluetooth; I am too cheap for that Headphones came with my phone(LG Rumor 2 from Virgin Mobile) They have hard ear plugs that are not comfortable, but regular plugs don't fit the headphone hole on the phone. I use them when I am walking sometimes if my MP3 player's batteries are dead. My phone has a media player on it.

 

[TLSnell1981]

The black eyes probably came from the broken nose -- the eyes usually blacken when the nose is injured. The photos of him that night at the police station show no swelling around the eyes. Two little scratches on the back of his head do not show a head being bashed into the pavement, IMO, and the broken nose, yep TM probably did that, but that may well have been self-defense on TM's part.

No DNA?

 

[chobie]

No DNA?

 

[sunshinehighway]

I guess, GZ broke his own nose, gave himself two black eyes and beat his head on the concrete?

Yeah, its a mystery. Somehow Martin managed to do all of those things plus use his hands to cover the mouth of a man bleeding from the nose without getting that man's DNA on his hands or sleeves.

Maybe that's part of the reason the police didn't believe him.

Maybe he hit himself with the butt of his gun when he fired? That could give him a broken nose.

 

[EPCOTatNight]

Your bluetooth works for music? Which ones are those I'd love to have those.

Mine do. Here they are. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Rocketf...bolsp-app06-06?id=1218068108153&skuId=9246862

 

[sunshinehighway]

It's on page 22 of the report you posted, third item from the bottom of the page. Some headphones have a built in mic, but the description in the report does not specify the type of headphones. It doesn't make sense that they would be in his pocket in this case though, if he was using them at the actual time the fight began.

He could have been using them earlier when talking to the girlfriend. She said they were getting disconnected and would call each other back (happened at least once, I think more than once). The headphones being in his pocket and phone being on the ground make more sense if he was talking on the actual phone when the altercation happened.

 

[TLSnell1981]

Yeah, its a mystery. Somehow Martin managed to do all of those things plus use his hands to cover the mouth of a man bleeding from the nose without getting that man's DNA on his hands or sleeves.

Maybe that's part of the reason the police didn't believe him.

Maybe he hit himself with the butt of his gun when he fired? That could give him a broken nose.

How did TM get the abrasions on his knuckles?

 

[Elinor Dashwood]

Yeah, its a mystery. Somehow Martin managed to do all of those things plus use his hands to cover the mouth of a man bleeding from the nose without getting that man's DNA on his hands or sleeves.

Maybe that's part of the reason the police didn't believe him.

Maybe he hit himself with the butt of his gun when he fired? That could give him a broken nose.

The DNA report states that Zimmerman's DNA was found on Trayvon's shirt. Sample labeled ME-8 had mixed DNA.

As for Trayvon's sleeves, the report states that there was mixed DNA on the left cuff lower sleeve. Wouldn't that be consistent with his left hand knuckle abrasion too?

ETA:

DNA analysis was done on four different stains on the shirt, as well as on swabbings from the lower sleeves of the shirt.

"Exhibit ME-8 Stain A - A complete DNA profile was obtained from exhibit ME-8 Stain A. This DNA profile is consistent with originating from a male individual and matches the DNA profile from George Michael Zimmerman (JR-2)."

"Exhibit ME-8 Stain D - The mixed DNA profile obtained from Exhibit ME-8 Stain D demonstrated the presence of at least two individuals...George Michael Zimmerman and Trayvon Benjamin Martin are included as possible contributors..."

In addition, there was a mixed DNA profile on Trayvon's left cuff/lower left sleeve, but that could not be conclusively tied to Zimmerman. In fact, if you continue reading, you'll find that there were also stains on Zimmerman's shirt that contained Martin's DNA (page 113 or so).

 

[sunshinehighway]

How did TM get the abrasions on his knuckles?

He only had one small abrasion on one knuckle on his left hand. That hardly is consistent with the beating Zimmerman described.

 

[Wadecool]

I started a new GZ thread for us to continue our pontificating...


Rest in peace old GZ thread...

 

[djm99]

Not a bluetooth; I am too cheap for that Headphones came with my phone(LG Rumor 2 from Virgin Mobile) They have hard ear plugs that are not comfortable, but regular plugs don't fit the headphone hole on the phone. I use them when I am walking sometimes if my MP3 player's batteries are dead. My phone has a media player on it.

Ok I did google bluetooth headphone. They do exist. Well over $300 for those with a mic. The one without are about $100-$225. I wish I had some money to blow I get me some. My girlfriends and I walk 3 or 4 days a week. Maybe I'll be nice to DH and get some for for my upcoming anniversary (how romantic)

 

[djm99]

Mine do. Here they are. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Rocketf...bolsp-app06-06?id=1218068108153&skuId=9246862

Is there a mic on these? Good price. How are they? I want these. We are so off topic. Sorry. This is the last page of this thread!

 

[Elinor Dashwood]

Is there a mic on these? Good price. How are they? I want these. We are so off topic. Sorry. This is the last page of this thread!

Since we're off topic, I just have to say that your little ones are too adorable! And I love the quote too.

 

[djm99]

He could have been using them earlier when talking to the girlfriend. She said they were getting disconnected and would call each other back (happened at least once, I think more than once). The headphones being in his pocket and phone being on the ground make more sense if he was talking on the actual phone when the altercation happened.

That make sense. I also add that I never did know of case of my bluetooth falling and phone cutting out. Now, when my phone drops yes, not my bluetooths. If you believe the girlfriend - I do.

 

[djm99]

Since we're off topic, I just have to say that your little ones are too adorable! And I love the quote too.

Thank you. I got that from a student a few years back in the middle of an argument. Funniest thing I heard.

 

[Elinor Dashwood]

Thank you. I got that from a student a few years back in the middle of an argument. Funniest thing I heard.

I am SO going to use this from now on! I have kids and well, it's the perfect saying.